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The FReeper Foxhole Profiles The Remount in Italy and the Cavalry's Return - November 21st, 2003
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Posted on 11/21/2003 3:48:23 AM PST by snippy_about_it

Lord,
Keep our Troops forever in Your care
Give them victory over the enemy...
Grant them a safe and swift return...
Bless those who mourn the lost. .
FReepers from the Foxhole join in prayer for all those serving their country at this time.
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Remount in Italy

The Quartermaster Review - March/April 1946
The terrain of Italy made the military deployment of animals necessary. The Germans for many years used the horse successfully in modern warfare. An example of the number used is illustrated by the table of organization for a single German Infantry Division, which calls for 4,000 animals.
Horses were used not necessarily because of a shortage of gasoline and oil, as some mechanized experts would like to have us believe, but because the horse is the logical source of power and means of transportation under certain circumstances unfavorable to motorized equipment. All armies have used the horse for reconnaissance, mounted infantry, cavalry, and horse-drawn artillery, and mules for the packing of food, ammunition, and guns. Of the men and animals connected with the last-mentioned category this narrative is written.
In October 1943 the 5th Army began to recruit men and animals for use in the mountainous campaign of Italy. The first animals, both horses and mules, were procured locally from civilians in that part of the Boot and Sicily already liberated by the Allies. Later the program included procurement from the islands of Sardinia and Corsica; from French North Africa as reimbursement in kind for animals received by the French under lend-lease during the winter of 1943-44; and from the British Near East under reverse lend-lease. Horses to equip the 10th Mountain Division were later procured from the mainland of France and T-E mules for the same unit from the United States. From the beginning of this animal program until VE-day, approximately 15,000 animals were received and processed, and 11,000 issued to using forces by the Quartermaster Remount Service in Italy.
The men selected for Animal Remount Service were chosen from various units and replacement depots on the basis of experience with animals, although, until March 1944, roughly 50 per cent of the personnel were inexperienced and had to be trained on the job by the other qualified 50 per cent.
Lt. Col. Russel V. D. Janzan activated and became Chief of the Remount Service in Italy on October 23,1943. He established his headquarters in Naples, with his main station at Persano. The original organization included two remount stations, which were located at Persano and Santa Maria Capua Vetera. The Persano Station was commanded by Colonel Janzan until the summer of 1944, when he was succeeded by Major Welden Slisher. The station at Santa Maria was commanded by Lt. Col. Kenneth F. Lafayette, who later became Chief of Remount Service, which included the 6742nd and 2610th Quartermaster Remount Depots (Ovhd).
In December 1943 Lt. Col. Sebe J. Houghton, Jr., succeeded Colonel Janzan as Chief of Remount, with headquarters in Naples. He ordered establishment of a third station at Bagnoli, just north of Naples, at a race track called Hippodromo, Agnano.
In June 1944 the Santa Maria Station was moved to Capanello Hippodromo on the southern outskirts of Rome, in an effort to keep up with the advancing 5th Army, and later to Grosseto for the same reason.
Because this site was one of the three large remount establishments of the Italian Government, it was selected as the semi-permanent rear installation of the United States Remount. It is a large farm of approximately 12, 000 acres and has a beautiful setting in a valley dotted with huge shade trees. This station became the largest holding, reconditioning, and recuperating remount station for American animals in Italy. At one time there were approximately 4,000 mules at the Grosseto Station.
The Remount Service in Italy was organized and functioned without the guidance of War Department Tables of Organization and Equipment or established experiences of predecessors. A serious hindrance was the lack of animal equipment. It was May 1944 before the first veterinary and animal equipment, consisting of miscellaneous medicines, nails, shoes, and clipping machines, arrived from the United States. As a result of this delay there was gradually assembled a weird assortment of Italian, French, English, German, and American tack and gear.
In considering exceptional performance of duty under adverse circumstances the Veterinarians assigned to Remount certainly come in for their share of honors. They were confronted with such problems as untrained assistants, lack of special medicines, and lack of instruments. Through their untiring efforts enlisted assistants were supervised and trained to competency, and supplies were procured locally by gleaning and searching all available sources. The fact that not one epidemic ever hit the Remount herds, when the variable sources of the stock is considered, is evidence enough of the great work done by the Veterinarians.
All animals purchased by the Remount Service from local sources were requisitioned. Requisitioning is a very simple process for the Army. It works as follows: a suitable animal, saddle; or any other item needed by the Army is located and the owner notified that the Army desires to buy it. A purchasing and contracting officer or AMG official sets the price and the deal is consummated. The Italian always set a much higher price than he expected to get. On one occasion an Italian brought a Pariani saddle and bridle to the stable one day and offered it for sale at L. 18,000 ($180). The final transaction netted him $100, and he was no former Fascist, either. The Army paid no more than the Italian Government paid for the same articles. Many good stories concerning these purchases went the rounds. One concerns a farmer who presented a slip of paper to an AMG official at Benevento which read: "Pay to the bearer $120 for one horse taken." It was signed "Tom Mix." AMG did not pay.
The purchase of animals was made on a set price scale. The first prices ranged from $80 to $150. Later the top limit was set at $250 for mules and $300 for horses. In the fall and winter of 1943-44 animals were scarce and a mule might be bought even though he could pack only one load of ammunition and then became unserviceable. When animals were no longer of service to the Army they were sold at auction. Later this policy was changed and civilians had to buy from ACC and the Italian Government on an equitable basis. The demand was always great, because if the animal could no longer work, his carcass brought a fortune on the black market.
The procurement of forage in Italy created another difficult problem. Until June 1944 there was no hay at all only tibben, which is chopped straw. After June 1944 prairie hay was usually available in sufficient quantities, but the quality was only mediocre and the price exorbitant. In March 1945 the situation was alleviated by shipments of sixty day forage supply from the United States for mules shipped to Italy for the 10th Mountain Infantry Division.
 During the air preparation of the big push in Italy by the U.S. Fifth Army, the men, mules, and armor of the 10th Mountain Division and supporting tank units move forward between 8:30 A.M. and 9:10 A.M., 14 April 1945. Bologna, Italy.
The Army has for a long time adhered closely to the rule of not buying white, gray, or other light-colored animals. Here it was necessary to buy all available animals, irrespective of color. These mules were called upon to pack rations to within a few hundred yards of the front and it was suicide to both men and animals to send a light colored animal forward.
The krauts used to derive great pleasure from mortaring our pack trains. The Germans had advanced and retreated over every inch of ground that our troops were traversing for the first time, and Jerry had his mortars trained on trails likely to be used by our pack troops. It was up to the' Remount Service to camouflage the light-colored mules sent up. Some of the famed Yankee ingenuity was mixed with potassium permanganate, and the result was a solution that, when sprayed on a gray mule, produced a "hintaed". An animal so sprayed remained effectively discolored for thirty to sixty days, depending on whether the weather was damp or arid.
The Luftwaffe was still infrequently pounding Naples harbor in the spring of 1944. In March of that year the first shipment of 865 horses and mules came in from North Africa as part of the French repayment. It was important that they they be unloaded with a minimum delay and transshipped from the port area direct to Persano by rail. It was important because no ship captain relished the idea of playing clay-pigeon for Goering's ace skeet-shooters. To speed up the process the stevedores we're unloading two and three mules at one time in each cargo net. Handling the entire operation were about eight officers and men from the Bagnoli Remount Station.
The animals had to be led from ship's side to the railhead about mile away, and the only personnel available for this duty was inexperienced civilian port labor. As might have been expected, before the door of the last box-car closed, twenty-two hours after the operation began, mules were running loose all over the port, disgruntled Italians were deserting their jobs, and, to make the picture complete, just like clock-work the enemy planes made their regular harassing milk run about 2230 hours. Little difference did it make to the port boys that a net of mules was dangling in mid-air between the hold and the dock, because they were safe in the "ricovero".
The most exciting experiences were connected with shipping horses and mules. Remount personnel loaded and unloaded animals into, and of of, trains, trucks, and ships. The absence of horse-vans made necessary to use 6x6 GMC GI trucks for hauling. High board frames did not always prevent the mules from jumping out, and they had to be roped and reloaded. A load for a GI truck consisted of six horses or mules. Quite often it was necessary to lead or drive herds of mules over long distances. This proved hazardous, due to the heavy traffic that is ever-present in the rear of any active theatre of war. It seems the irony of fate when a combat man, coming to the rear, is injured in a motor accident. However there are many instances of this misfortune. Heavy traffic, loose mules, and men riding horses on pavement proved constant headaches to the Army Safety Program.
Remount Station 5L81 was located at Barbarcina, a suburb of Pisa. The station was quartered in a former racing stable, with the men living in a fine brick building which they christened "Albergo Rimonte "-Remount Hotel. The Albergo was a veritable crossroads in Italy for all ex-cavalrymen, veterinarians, and horse-lovers in general. One could always get a hot meal, a bed, and a hot bath at the Albergo Rimonte.
Normally the Remount Service in the field is not concerned with animal breeding. However the Pisa Station was faced with maternity problems subsequent to the capture of a number of German mares by the 10th Mountain Division. The favorite pet of personnel and visitors at Pisa was a beautiful colt belonging to a dappled gray mare, which formerly spent her time pulling a Jerry field piece in a northerly direction prior to capture. The Germans have a benevolent habit of permitting the farmers to care for their animals when they are in semi-permanent bivouac, as they were in the more or less static period of warfare last spring north of the Arno River. Obviously the mare got in mixed company, as she foaled after she was captured.
It was interesting to see the variety of brands used in identifying animals which came from all parts of the world. The Germans used a hoof brand and the mules from the British Middle East had only a crow-foot. The British liked our Preston branding system so that they adopted a similar one for branding their animals on the off side of the neck.
The condition of the horses captured from the Germans was generally fair. Of the first captives, some came in with gaping shrapnel wounds, most were lousy, and some appeared to be suffering from malnutrition. The manes of the captured horses were not roached, and, unlike our Army, the Germans used many stallions for transportation as well as for drawing heavy artillery.
When our forces captured the Po Valley they discovered tens of thousands of riding and draft horses, and a negligible number of mules, running free. The Germans had been unable to get these across the Po River in the haste of chaotic retreat. Among these animals were some of the best German and Austrian stock, along with the best of the Italian breed, which had been procured as they were rolled back from Reggio and Salerno to the Po River. It was no trouble at all to walk into any field and select a perfectly matched team of dappled gray or chestnut draft horses. Also there were well conformed hunting and jumping types.
The main collection point for these animals, was San Martino De Spino, formerly an Italian Cavalry School. It was here that further evidence of Teuton cruelty was brought, to light, for among the animals collected at San Martino were some with their legs and hind quarters burned severely and, others with their faces and necks burned to a similar degree. This meant that the Germans, when they could not get their wagons across the Po, had set them afire without freeing either the animals drawing the vehicles or those tied to the rear and being led. These poor creatures were, of course, put out of their misery with the least delay by the U. S. Army Remount personnel.
Through the AMG, payment of all requisitioned items was settled. When the war was over, the AMG assumed the job of distributing all captured animals to the patriots that had helped to liberate Italy. Remount collected and held these animals and turned them over to AMG as dispositions were made. This proved to be a gigantic task because of the thousands of horses and mules that had been displaced with the German retreat towards the, Po River. In one compound near Bologna approximately two thousand captured animals were held for distribution to Italian farmers.
The Remount Service played a vital part in the success of the Allied armies in Italy. A quick glance at the North Appenines terrain is all that is required to realize the importance of the sure-footed,. long-eared kinsman of the horse in negotiating the treacherous mountain trails that lead to the fox-holes, the dugouts, and the gun emplacements.
The following citation is a fitting tribute to the men who handled the mules that carried C rations and bullets to the men who won the war:
"The 6742nd Quartermaster Remount Depot (Ovhd) is awarded the Meritorious Service Unit Plaque for superior performance of duty under adverse conditions for the period October 1, 1944, to February 15, 1945. During this period it was the function of the Depot to supply 5th Army horse and mule units, both original issues and replacements of a quality capable of performing the burdensome task of packing supplies quickly and regularly. This meant the procuring, processing, and maintenance of a daily average of 1,304 animals for the entire period... Through the untiring and superior efforts of men and officers this mission was accomplished in a superior and efficient manner, irrespective of time, place, weather conditions, irregularities in schedules, mediocrity of original stock secured, and lack of previously trained personnel... The proficiency and professional skill, outstanding organizational abilities, and efficiency with which animals and administration were handled, reflect the highest tradition of the Service."
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To: bentfeather
Good morning feather. Good tagline today, I like it!
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11/21/2003 6:54:44 AM PST
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snippy_about_it
(Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)
To: CholeraJoe
Awwww. They are so adorable. My dogs have always loved to play in the snow, I expect most do!
They have grown fast and are looking good. Thanks for sharing.
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11/21/2003 6:56:55 AM PST
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snippy_about_it
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To: snippy_about_it
On This Day In History
Birthdates which occurred on November 21:
1495 John Bale England, bishop/anti-catholic playwright (Kynge Johan)
1694 Voltaire [Francois-Marie Arouet], France, thinker
1785 William Beaumont surgeon (studied digestion)
1787 Sir Samuel Cunard founder (1st regular Atlantic steamship line)
1817 Richard B Garnett Brig Gen, killed during Pickett's charge
1854 Benedict XV 258th Roman Catholic pope (1914-22)
1863 Arthur Quiller-Couch editor (Oxford Book of English Verse)
1904 Coleman Hawkins virtually created tenor saxophone for jazz
1907 Charles Korvin Piestany Hungary, actor (Berlin Express, Ship of Fools)
1907 Jim Bishop author (The Day Lincoln was Shot)
1908 Franz Pfnor Germany, slalom (Olympic-gold-1936)
1912 Eleanor Powell Springfield MA, actress/tap dancer (Broadway Melody)
1916 Sid Luckman NFL QB (Chicago Bears)
1920 Ralph Meeker actor (Anderson Tapes, Night Stalker)
1920 Stan Musial outfielder (St Louis Cardinal, 7 times NL bat champ)
1921 Vivian Blaine Newark NJ, actress (Guys & Dolls, Skirts Ahoy)
1927 Joseph Campanella NYC, actor (Dr Steffen-The Nurses, Lou-Mannix)
1932 Jim Ringo NFL center (Green Bay, Philadelphia)
1933 Henry Hartsfield Jr Birmingham AL, astro (STS-4, STS 41-D, STS 61A)
1933 Jean Shepard Pauls Valley OK, country singer (Ozark Jubilee)
1934 Laurence Luckinbill Fort Smith Ark, actor (Delphi Bureau, Ike)
1936 James De Preist Philadelphia PA, conductor (Mitropolos 1964)
1937 Marlo Thomas Detroit MI, actress,[Mrs Phil Donahue](That Girl!, Jenny)
1939 Richard Lenz Springfield IL, actor (Hec Ramsey, Scandalous John)
1940 Natalia Maskarova Lenningrad, ballerina (Kirov) defected 1970
1941 Juliet Mills London England, actress (Nanny & the Professor, QB VII)
1943 Larry Mahan Oregon, rodeo champ (1967-70)
1944 Earl "the Pearl" Monroe Philadelphia PA, NGA Guard (NY Knicks, Baltimore Bullets)
1945 Goldie Hawn Takoma Park MD, actress (Laugh-in, Private Benjamin)
1950 Alberto Juantorena Cuba, 400m dash (Olympic-gold-1976)
1950 Livingston Taylor Boston, rocker (I Will be in Love With You)
1952 Deborah Shelton Wash DC, actress (Dallas, Ocean Kill, Body Double)
1952 Lorna Luft Scarsdale NY, singer/actress (Where the Boys Are-1980)
1953 Tina Brown journalist publisher (Tatler)
1956 Terri Welles Santa Monica Ca, playmate of the year (Dec, 1980)
1963 Nicollette Sheridan Worthing England, actress (Paige-Knots Landing)
1964 Marjorie Judith Vincent Oak Park IL, Miss America (1991)
1975 Cherie Johnson Pittsburgh PA, actress (Cherie-Punky Brewster)
Deaths which occurred on November 21:
1555 Georgius Agricola mineralogist, dies in Germany at 61
1624 Jakob Bohme German philosophical mystic, dies
1817 Richard B Garnett killed during Pickett's Charge, Brig Gen
1899 Garret Augustus Hobart 24th VP, died
1916 Franz Josef of Austria, dies
1941 Juanita Spellini first woman executed in California
1958 Mel Ott NY Giant baseball star (1926-1947), dies at 49
1959 Max Baer US, heavyweight boxing champ (1934), dies at 49
1981 Harry Von Zell TV announcer (Burns & Allen), dies at 75
1982 Lee Patrick actress (Henrietta-Topper, Maltese Falcon), dies at 75
1987 James E Folsom (Alabama-Gov, 1947-51, 1955-59), dies at 79
1991 David "Sonny" Werblin AFL owner (NY Jets), dies at 81
Reported: MISSING in ACTION
1964 NIPPER DAVID---ATLANTA GA.
1965 TOMS DENNIS L.---ROCK MN.
[FELL OFF SHIP?]
1967 REYNOLDS DAVID R.---BUFFALO NY.
1972 STAFFORD RONALD D.---OXFORD NE.
POW / MIA Data & Bios supplied by
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On this day...
235 St Anterus begins his reign as Catholic Pope
496 St Gelasius I ends his reign as Catholic Pope
1620 Leaders of the Mayflower expedition frame the "Mayflower Compact," designed to bolster unity among the settlers
1654 Richard Johnson, a free black, granted 550 acres in Virginia
1783 Pilstre de Rozier & Marquis d'Arlandes make 1st free balloon flight
1787 Andrew Jackson admitted to the bar
1789 North Carolina ratifies constitution, becomes 12th US state
1794 Honolulu Harbor discovered (I didn't it was lost)
1802 nothing happened.
1818 Russia's Czar Alexander I petitions for a Jewish state in Palestine
1824 1st Jewish Reform congregation established, Charleston, SC
1837 Thomas Morris of Australia skips rope 22,806 times
1847 Steamer "Phoenix" is lost on Lake Michigan, kills 200
1871 Moses Gale patents a cigar lighter
1877 Tom Edison announces his "talking machine" invention
1895 Start of Sherlock Holmes "Adventure of Bruce Partington Plans" (BG)
1902 1st night football game, Philadelphia Athletics beats Kanaweola AC, 39-0
1925 Red Grange plays final Univ of Illinois game, signs with Chicago Bears
1933 1st US ambassador to USSR, W.C. Bullitt, begins service
1934 Yanks buy Joe DiMaggio from San Francisco Seals
1935 1st commercial crossing of Pacific by plane (China Clipper)
1945 General Motors workers go on strike
1946 Harry Truman becomes 1st US President to travel in a submerged sub
1952 1st US postage stamp in 2 colors (rotary process) introduced
1953 "Pitdown Man," discovered in 1912 proved to be a hoax
1959 Jack Benny (violin) & Richard Nixon (piano) play their famed duet
1964 World's longest suspension bridge "Verrazano Narrows" opens (NYC)
1967 Phillip & Jay Kunz fly a kite a record 28,000 feet
1968 Supremes & Temptations release "I'm Gonna Make You Love Me"
1970 NY Knicks 1st game against Cleveland Cavalier, Knicks win 102-94 at MSG
1971 NY Rangers scores a NHL record 8 goals in 1 period
1975 Linda McCartney drug charges in US are dropped
1977 1st flight of the Concorde (London to New York)
1980 Dallas' "Who Shot JR?" episode (Kristen) gets a 53.3 rating
1980 Fire at the MGM Grand Hotel in Las Vegas kills 84
1980 Gene Michaels replaces Dick Howser as Yankee's 25th manager
1980 John & Yoko pose nude for photographer Allan Tannenbaum
1981 Olivia Newton-John's "Physical," single goes #1 & stays for 10 weeks
1986 The Justice Department begins an inquiry into the National Security Council into what will become known as the Iran-Contra scandal.
1990 Michael Milken is sentenced to 10 years for security law violations
1990 Signing of Declaration of "End of Cold war" in Paris
1992 Oregon Sen Bob Packwood issues apology for unwelcome sexual advances
1995 China jailed well-known dissident Wei Jing-sheng and charged him with trying to overthrow the government.
2000 In a setback for George W. Bush, the Florida Supreme Court granted Al Gore's request to keep the presidential recounts going; Democrats were jubilant, Republicans bitter and angry.
Holidays
Note: Some Holidays are only applicable on a given "day of the week"
Day of Lulkukan (Mayan holiday).
North Carolina : Ratification Day (1789)
US : National Children's Book Week Begins (Monday)
US : Farm City Week Begins
International Doll Collectors Month
Religious Observances
Orthodox : Feast of St Michael the Archangel (11/8 OS)
RC : Memorial of the Presentation of the Blessed Virgin Mary
Religious History
1638 A General Assembly at Glasgow abolished the episcopal form of church government, adopted the presbyterian form in its place, and gave final constitution to the Church of Scotland.
1852 Union Institute was chartered by the Methodists in Randolph County, NC. Renamed Trinity College in 1859, the campus moved to Durham in 1892. Tobacco magnate James B. Duke endowed the school with $40 million in 1924, upon which its name was changed to Duke University.
1907 Birth of Jim Bishop, American journalist. He gave new life to great historical moments through his "day" books, including his 1957 chronicle of "The Day Christ Died."
1943 German theologian and Nazi martyr Dietrich Bonhoeffer wrote in a letter: 'A prison cell, in which one waits, hopes...and is completely dependent on the fact that the door of freedom has to be opened from the outside, is not a bad picture of Advent.'
1948 The Sunday morning religious program "Lamp Unto My Feet" first aired over CBS television. It became one of TV's longest_running network shows, and aired through January 1979.
Source: William D. Blake. ALMANAC OF THE CHRISTIAN CHURCH. Minneapolis: Bethany House, 1987.
Thought for the day :
"Even if there is nothing to laugh about, laugh on credit"
Word for the day...
shin
Function: noun
A device for finding furniture in the dark.
Murphys Law of the day...(Captain Penny's Law)
You can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time, but you can't fool MOM.
What I learned while looking for something else #56,813...
Lee Harvey Oswald's cadaver tag sold at an auction for $6,600 in 1992.
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11/21/2003 7:37:49 AM PST
by
Valin
(We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Mornin' Snippy,,,Mornin'Sam!
Horse and Mule Bump!
Cavalry units, either fourlegged, air or mechanized, always worked pretty well. I know war was bad on the humans, but it was terrible for the animals. They made bigger targets and could not shoot back.
BTW,,,please tell me it's FRIDAY!!!
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11/21/2003 7:54:27 AM PST
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SCDogPapa
(In Dixie Land I'll take my stand to live and die in Dixie)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Morning Glory Snip & Sam~
These "off the front" historical threads are so enjoyable and informative.
The Italian always set a much higher price than he expected to get.
. . . and so began the term "horse-trader". ;o)
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11/21/2003 7:59:01 AM PST
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w_over_w
(DO NOT WASH! This tagline is undergoing a classified dirt experiment.)
To: Valin
1967 Phillip & Jay Kunz fly a kite a record 28,000 feet That's gotta be a lot of damn string!
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11/21/2003 8:05:11 AM PST
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w_over_w
(DO NOT WASH! This tagline is undergoing a classified dirt experiment.)
To: w_over_w
Almost 28,019 feet.:-)
I do sometiimes wonder how people get these ideas. I'm not saying it's a bad thing but it does make me wonder
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11/21/2003 8:42:51 AM PST
by
Valin
(We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)
To: snippy_about_it
Good Morning Snippy. Good topic for a thread. most people don't realize how much horses were used in WWII. The Germans were heavily horse dependant for their supply trains and artillery.
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11/21/2003 8:43:58 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: E.G.C.
Morning E.G.C. Rain again today but supposed to be clear tomorrow.
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:44:42 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: CholeraJoe
16 degrees with 20 mph winds and blowing snowBRRRRRRRR! I don't miss that at all.
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:45:21 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: The Mayor
Hi Mayor.
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:45:35 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: aomagrat
Morning aomagrat.

USS Utah lies on her side near the place she sank at about 0810 Dec 7, 1941
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:52:57 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: manna
Hi Manna!
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posted on
11/21/2003 8:53:56 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: AnAmericanMother
Thanks for sharing your Dad's story about his experiences in Italy. We thank him for his service.
Knowing the way the Army works, I'm not surprised that your dad was assigned to handle mules. They have a strange way of thbinking when assigning people to jobs some times.
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11/21/2003 9:02:25 AM PST
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SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: Samwise
Morning Samwise. I haven't thought about Francis in a long time.
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:04:47 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: bentfeather
Hi Feather.
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:05:22 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: CholeraJoe
AWWWWWWWW! They grow up way tooooo fast.
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:06:02 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: SCDogPapa
IT'S FRIDAY!
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:07:01 AM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
To: Valin
1877 Tom Edison announces his "talking machine" invention I'm sure glad they decided to call it the "light bulb" instead. ;-)
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posted on
11/21/2003 9:08:44 AM PST
by
SAMWolf
(100,000 lemmings can't be wrong.)
To: snippy_about_it; SAMWolf
Nice read. The terrain on the Afghan-Pak border looks like they could use a little cavalry over there.
There is some nice horse soldier memorabilia at the Fort Robinson, Nebraska, museum. I may be wrong, but I believe that was the last post with active horse units. I was intrigued by the horse operating room and table - like nothing I've seen before. The table was very stout and shaped like a horse on it's side. The instruments were "super sized" too.
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11/21/2003 9:12:59 AM PST
by
colorado tanker
("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")
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