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"Conservatism and Libertarianism: The Common Ground,"

I think this points to what is really going on here.

Personally, I think that being "pro-Liberty", "anti-Government", "isolationist", or even "interventionalist" as an end, itself, misses the point that these are means to an end, not ends, themselves. And treating these ideologies as ends has created endless excluded middle arguments between abstract ideals instead of discussions of how to best address real world situations.

It is the ends of prosperity, justice, security, and happiness that people seek, not abstract philosphies. Sometimes those ends are served by government or intervention and quite often they aren't. But I'm ultimately a conservative because I believe that ideology can usually best achieve the desirable ends, not because it is and end and not because I have some fetish for any particular ideology, regardless of facts or reality. And I've always thougth that seeking out what works, as opposed to what we'd like to work, was one one of the things that seperated conservatives from ideology-addled liberals. Perhaps I was wrong.

[philosofy123]

Can some one educate me about this publication called THE WEEKLY STANDARD, where did this publication come from, is it real conservative, and why Fox news always feature editors from that magazine?

[tpaine]

" -- the real Right, the anti-statist conservative and libertarian Right, has re-emerged with new venues, both on the Internet and on newsstands."
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"Conservatism and Libertarianism: The Common Ground,"

I think this points to what is really going on here.
---- I've always thought that seeking out what works, as opposed to what we'd like to work, was one one of the things that seperated conservatives from ideology-addled liberals. Perhaps I was wrong.
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We have something that 'works' [or used to, anyway], that everyone seems to be ignoring.

-- Our Constitution.

-- As we see on FR, posting on this very thread, there is a large band of ideology-addled neo-conservatives that oppose the basic principles of our BOR's & Constitution.

-- You aren't wrong. They are, and, -- they know it, but don't care.
-- Political power has corrupted our free republic.