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1 posted on 10/23/2011 7:18:01 PM PDT by alexmai
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I don’t have too many issues with Ron Paul’s economic / libertarian views, it’s when he starts speaking about cultural issues and foreign policy that he makes me nervous.


2 posted on 10/23/2011 7:21:31 PM PDT by YankeeReb (No matter what, AB0 in 2012.)
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Twenty percent is bascially stating that our economy is getting butchered. I also think it’s a lot more accurate.


3 posted on 10/23/2011 7:21:57 PM PDT by Niuhuru (The Internet is the digital AIDS; adapting and successfully destroying the MSM host.)
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To: alexmai

Addressing just the headline, Paul is right, US unemployment is right around 20%.


4 posted on 10/23/2011 7:23:18 PM PDT by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it. (plagiarized))
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He’s right about this. Government statistics are a lie when it comes to unemployment and actual inflation.


6 posted on 10/23/2011 7:24:47 PM PDT by 3Fingas (Sons and Daughters of Freedom, Committee of Correspondence)
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To: alexmai

Looks like Paul is splitting the difference between the Labor Dept.’s U6 figure and Shadow Statistics’ figure.


7 posted on 10/23/2011 7:25:00 PM PDT by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know. . .)
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To: alexmai

You’ve posted a total of ten threads since joining FR in July, yet you haven’t posted a single reply.

Just so you know, that’s considered extremely bad form around here, and makes you suspicious in the eyes of many forum regulars.


8 posted on 10/23/2011 7:27:00 PM PDT by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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Everybody says Paul is too far out there to be president.
I'm starting to think that he is sane and the rest of us are the crazy ones.
getting rid of five useless federal departments may seem crazy but they don't really serve any purpose, we can't afford them, and they are probably unconstitutional. So who are the crazy ones?
9 posted on 10/23/2011 7:28:49 PM PDT by oldbrowser (Democrats have no superego.)
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16 posted on 10/23/2011 7:44:24 PM PDT by onyx (You're here on FR, so support it! Compiling New Sarah Ping List. Let me know if you want on it.)
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But how is Ron Paul basing his 20% figure? Given that government calculations for unemployment rate can be all over the place, an accurate figure in modern times is at times hard to come by.

Besides, this is why we need MAJOR tax reform, at least to Steve Forbes' flat-rate income tax plan. That way, businesses are encouraged to keep their liquid assets and capital investments in the USA because of being tax advantageous to do so.

17 posted on 10/23/2011 7:51:16 PM PDT by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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Even a stopped cukoo clock is right twice a day.


19 posted on 10/23/2011 8:01:36 PM PDT by Crucial
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Gee if he only got there are bad guy out there who don’t like freedom in any form and want to kill us he might be a fine candidate.


22 posted on 10/23/2011 8:10:07 PM PDT by svcw (Those who are easily shocked... should be shocked more often. - Mae West)
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One thing to keep in mind is that the unemployment rate is highly dependent on the skill set. Just try to find a halfway decent software engineer right now. I was trying to hire one, and after a nationwide posting, we got one applicant, and we pay very well. We finally turned to headhunters.

I heard a similar story from a guy who opened up a manufacturing plant, and all he was looking for was people to run the automated machinery. He needed basic math and reading skills, and the pay was decent enough, maybe 2-3 times minimum. He had many applicants, but the vast majority couldn't even pass the basic math and reading skills. I don't know if he ever was able to fill the jobs.

Other areas, such as real estate, have been devastated. It's not easy to retrain, either. It takes about 10 years to master anything, and if you haven't mastered it, you're back at the bottom with the low-level people clawing your way up.

When you collect together the people who can't find work, the people who have no usable skills, the people who could take another job but won't start a career all over again, and the people who prefer unemployment, yes 20% is possible.

25 posted on 10/23/2011 8:35:56 PM PDT by ElectronVolt
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at 25%, they will start turning feral... in some places i think it's already happening
27 posted on 10/23/2011 8:48:45 PM PDT by Chode (American Hedonist - *DTOM* -ww- NO Pity for the LAZY)
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While I agree we are facing a much larger rate today, the idea that no jobs were created since 2000 is a massive lie and preposterous idea. We saw several years of very low unemployment and high job creation. The libs tried to pretend that the slump in 08 and slide in jobs negated the previous 7 years. This is yet another example of Paul pushing liberal lies.


33 posted on 10/23/2011 9:28:59 PM PDT by ilgipper (Everything you get from the government was taken from someone else)
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Right


40 posted on 10/23/2011 11:08:55 PM PDT by Lorianne
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