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To: alicewonders
First of all, I believe it's a canard that loads of people are in jail for simple possession.

But let me ask you. Do you think there would be NO negative effects if cocaine, heroin, LSD, etc were legal?

13 posted on 05/16/2011 9:04:35 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: SoCal Pubbie
But let me ask you. Do you think there would be NO negative effects if cocaine, heroin, LSD, etc were legal?

Of course I don't. But there comes a point when we are losing more & more of our freedoms every day, it seems - with the reason being that the government has to "protect us from ourselves". Now, they want to tell us how much salt we can eat, what kind of light bulbs we can use, etc.

Where does it stop? I think that people that do things that cause harm to others, should be punished. But I don't think that that it's anyone's business what responsible people do - responsibly. Do you ever watch COPS? There are always going to be stupid, irresponsible people - no matter if their activities are legal or illegal - it doesn't stop the idiots.

I'm tired of living in this nanny state, it's not a Utopia, and it never will be.

14 posted on 05/16/2011 9:17:09 PM PDT by alicewonders
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Do you think there would be NO negative effects if cocaine, heroin, LSD, etc were legal?

We cannot live in an idealized world, and the question you ask is a silly question a liberal would ask. Implicit in "Leave Afghanistan Now," (for example) is a pretense that the world would simply return to the status quo ante. But of course, it would not. We are in Afghanistan, so now we must compare what's likely to happen with our leaving with what's likely to happen if we stay.

The question asked by actual adults is: "Do you believe the effects of legalizing some or all of these drugs would involve trade-offs more or less beneficial than the current strategy?" We can debate that question. But we cannot debate a question that compares a fantasy world to the real one.

16 posted on 05/16/2011 9:20:28 PM PDT by FredZarguna (It looks just like a Telefunken U-47. In leather.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Do you think there would be NO negative effects if cocaine, heroin, LSD, etc were legal?

Who cares? "No negative effects" isn't the standard when what's being justified is sweeping encroachments on EVERYONE's Constitutional rights, wasting of EVERYONE's tax dollars whether they're involved or not. That wouldn't be a good trade if the war was winnable; it CERTAINLY isn't a good trade for the war we get.

32 posted on 05/17/2011 5:03:44 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SoCal Pubbie

Of course there would be negative effects, but they would be small and not significantly different than they are now. The police could concentrate of minor using, and HAMMERING those selling or distributing to minors. Why would anyone have a reason to sell dope themselves, if it is legal for adults to buy. Once upon a time, people had stills in the hills, making moonshine. When prohibition ended, the stills went the way of the dinosaur, except for those making “shine” for themselves or friends. There was no profit in it, and the store products were superior.


37 posted on 05/17/2011 9:42:09 PM PDT by runninglips (Republicans = 99 lb weaklings of politics.)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
Do you think there would be NO negative effects if cocaine, heroin, LSD, etc were legal?

Of course there would be. But those negative effects are outweighed by the even more negative effects of Federal prohibition. That was Buckley's point.

39 posted on 05/18/2011 11:21:44 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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