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Editorial: Palin and Paul
The New York Sun ^ | 2009-10-10 | Unsigned Editorial

Posted on 10/10/2009 10:42:55 AM PDT by rabscuttle385

Those of us who have been waiting for a politician to pick up on the monetary issue are perking up at Governor Palin’s demarche on the dollar. This came last week in a posting on her Facebook page, where she reacted to a report that Gulf oil producers were negotiating with Russia, China, Japan, and France to abandon the use of the dollar in pricing petroleum. She noted the report in the Wall Street Journal that Arab oil officials were denying the story, but reckoned that “even the possibility of such talk weakens the dollar and renews fears about its continued viability as an international reserve currency.” Then she pointed out that “a United Nations official called for a new global reserve currency to replace the dollar and end our ‘privilege’ to run up huge deficits.” Most importantly, she warned about the price of gold, which that day had hit a record in what she called a “response to fears about the weakened dollar.”

Time will tell, but what this suggests is that the former governor of Alaska is ahead of the rest of the undeclared contenders in 2012...

So Mrs. Palin’s comments suggest she’s savvier than many give her credit for being. No sooner did she issue her warning about the dollar than Reuters found a number of Republicans declaring she was right...

It is true that the only politician who has been campaigning on this issue, Ron Paul, failed to prosper at the polls. We would argue that had less to do with his monetary policy than other issues. Maybe he should have been a bidder for that famous lunch with the former Alaska governor. We’re not ready to make endorsements, but Palin and Paul would make a whale of a ticket.

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Candidates; Issues
KEYWORDS: 2012; healthcare; lping; military; obama; palin; paulisnoconservative; realconservatives; ronpaul; sarahpalin; veterans
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To: Huck
Ron Paul is a devout Christian who has been married to the same woman for over 50 years and has a staunch pro-life record. You can't get any more social conservative than that.

I think you're confusing Palin's social conservatism with that of the base that supported Bush and Huckabee's big government social conservatism. While a social conservative, Palin doesn't espouse the nanny-state aspect of it.

21 posted on 10/10/2009 11:09:56 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: perfect_rovian_storm

If the beltway chattering class had its way, the 2012 ticket would be Willard / T-Paw and lose to Obama.

Then in 2016, beltway chattering class would force Jeb Bush on the GOP base.


22 posted on 10/10/2009 11:10:19 AM PDT by yongin
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To: FastCoyote

It must have been a terrific time to meet Chuck Heath. Who is Heath endorsing for Reid’s opponent? Sue Lowden or Tarkinson?


23 posted on 10/10/2009 11:13:07 AM PDT by yongin
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To: Captain Kirk
Mrs Palin isn't under anyone's “sway” so you can cease with your futile attempts at smearing this brilliant lady.
24 posted on 10/10/2009 11:17:35 AM PDT by jla
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
When I say socon, I mean big gubmint socon. They are one and the same to me. I didn't mean to say anything about Paul personally.

But what you consider a staunch pro-life record isn't what socons think. Correct me if I am wrong, but he wants to let the states sort it out for themselves. That's not good enough for socons.

On other social issues as well. He is against the fed gov defining marriage. He does not believe the fedgov should do anything to counteract the homosexual rights agenda. He doesn't support a constitutional marriage amendment. Etc.

I'm fine with all of that. But the socons are not. They want to use the fedgov to pursue their aims, even when it's not constitutional.

Then there's the war on drugs. And I think the socons probably share a bit with the neocons, when it comes to our foreign policy role vis a vis Israel.

So while I am sure he's a fine man. He's not a socon. And that's pretty much a compliment.

25 posted on 10/10/2009 11:20:15 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Captain Kirk
I NEVER said she was a neocon

But you're using guilt-by-association tactics to imply that she is.

only that she has been under the sway, especially in foreign policy matters, since Billy Kristol became her debate coach.

He's not her debate coach now nor will he be if she decides to run in her own right.

Please note that the other signers of that letter were a virtual who's who of neoconservatism.

How does that translate into Palin supporting a neo-conservative foreign policy though?

In any case, do you disagree with my larger point that a joint ticket is impossible?

It would be impossible because of Paul's age and the fact that he already said he's not running again in 2012, not because of any perceived ideological differences. And that Palin wouldn't be another VP pick again. Palin would have been Paul's VP choice had he won the nominaton, and this is part of the reason why McCain chose her.

As you know, at EVERY opportunity Paul brings the argument back to a foreign policy approach which is diametrically opposed that advocated by Palin.

Well, Palin figures our troops are there. She has a son serving in the military and she enjoys widespread from the military and their families. Do you really think she's going to advocate an immediate withdrawal like Paul has?

26 posted on 10/10/2009 11:20:17 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: rabscuttle385

Just remember this.

The MSM do not have permission from Constitutional Conservatives to choose our Presidential Candidates.

Sarah Palin is a given for some of us . . . but SHE chooses her own Vice President (even if I want it to be Michele Bachmann).

Do Not Allow The MSM to Pull Us Into Another “McCain” Crisis.

The Contender for TOTUS must be OUR choice and ours alone.


27 posted on 10/10/2009 11:22:34 AM PDT by HighlyOpinionated (2012 -- Sarah Palin for President, Michele Bachmann for VP, Liz Cheney for Sec of State!)
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To: Uncle Ivan
L. Ron's lunatic foreign policy had something to do with that?

I think that's a big part. The GOP, and most of the base, subscibe to Wilsonian interventionist foreign policy. His unwillingness to use the fedgov in pursuit of social conservative goals is another reason. That's two legs of the stool right there. I say break the stool all ready. We'd be better off with a pogo stick. Neoconservatism is a failure. And the socons, while good people, are too willing to use big gubmint when it suits them.

28 posted on 10/10/2009 11:23:01 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: Huck

Thanks for clarifying. I too support Paul’s version of social conservatism, although I personally believe that there should be a constitutional amendment banning abortion.


29 posted on 10/10/2009 11:27:49 AM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (90% of the fedgov is unconstitutional. The other 10% besides the military doesnt know what it's doin)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Why would Palin pick a neophyte like Paul to run with?

She has a totally different foreign policy and military understanding than Paul. She wouldn't want to touch his views on those subjects with 20' pole.

30 posted on 10/10/2009 11:27:54 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Well, it's complicated, I guess. The incorporation of the 14th amendment muddies the water in a big way, because it gets the feds down into the weeds where the states should rightly prevail. In classic republican (small r) theory, the state governments have a higher legitimacy than the national gubmint, because they are smaller and closer to the people they represent, and more closely reflect the mores and attitudes of that particular region.

On what grounds can one say the fed gov knows better? And anyway, considering how much state support is needed to pass an amendment, why not just let them deal with it?

Well, then there's Roe v Wade. Will it be overturned? If not, then there's another case for an amendment, but I would like to see an amendment that merely nullifies Roe, and gives the authority back to the state gubmints.

That would leave some states with legal abortion. Probably most would have some restrictions. Many would ban it outright. That's good enough for me. When it comes to these issues, we should feel no more entitled to tell California what to do than we feel entitled to tell Sweden what to do. The basis of our Union is not to govern from the top down. It's merely supposed to let us work together where we must--infrastructure, defense, commerce. The rest should be left to each state, and they should be free to govern in a way that suits their neighbors or doesn't.

31 posted on 10/10/2009 11:35:01 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: yongin

[It must have been a terrific time to meet Chuck Heath. Who is Heath endorsing for Reid’s opponent? Sue Lowden or Tarkinson?]

I think Chuck was here for Tarkanian.

Insiders think Danny is too clueless, an Ensign lite (if that is possible). Lowden is better, but also has hurdles. I heard an interesting exposition that Amodei from up north will be the sleeper who prevails because of the primary turnout stats in the north. Sounded convincing, but I don’t believe everything I hear.


32 posted on 10/10/2009 11:36:46 AM PDT by FastCoyote (I am intolerant of the intolerable.)
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To: rabscuttle385

It’s good to see that Palin is getting at least some recognition for the multitude of things that she has been right about.

I still think that the upsurge in attacks upon her over the last few weeks, Schmidt, Murphy, the MSM, etc., is the result of the very strong sales her book has seen since it went into pre-release sales mode.

Here’s an update on Going Rogue: An American Life:

#1 at Amazon in non-fiction (#3 among all books)
#1 at Barnes and Noble in non-fiction (#4 among all books)
#1 at Books a million in non-fiction
#1 at Borders
#1 at WalMart for pre-release titles
#2 at Family Christian Stores (even at the full $28.99
price)

I’m not sure how many books this translates into, but a publishing industry insider, quoted by Politico just 2 days after sales started, pronounced the sales “phenomenal.”

If these numbers hold up over the next 2 or 3 weeks, who knows, we may see the publisher announce that the initial press run of 1.5 million will be increased due to unexpectedly heavy sales.

It should be noted that 0bama’s books, Audacity of Hope, and Dreams from my Father have sold a combined total of about 1.44 million. Bill Clinton’s book sold 1.3 million and Hillary’s 1.2 million.


33 posted on 10/10/2009 11:37:14 AM PDT by euram
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To: Huck
That’s what I was wondering? Has she indicated, on her own, independent of McCain’s campaign, that she is in line with neocon foreign policy?

Yes, when she signed with joint letter. See here. Take a careful look at the other signers of the letter.

34 posted on 10/10/2009 11:39:18 AM PDT by Captain Kirk
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To: Captain Kirk
Yes. It looks like a neocon playoff roster. I wonder if anyone in the GOP has a chance unless they are neocon. It's like the fix is in. I mean, aren't the big talk show guys all totally in line with it too? Limbaugh, Hannity, Levin. They all buy into it. Same goes for Fox News, right? Anytime someone deviates from the script, they get marginalized. And you basically can't have a rational discussion regarding Israel and what we should or shouldn't do for them. I hesitate to even bring it up.

Anyway, if a bunch of goombas can form an organization, and run trucking, construction, gambling, vending machines, waste disposal, etc, it's hard to believe that somehow government isn't in the end another form of organized crime. It almost seems quaintly naiive to think it's anything but rotten to the core.

35 posted on 10/10/2009 11:47:07 AM PDT by Huck ("He that lives on hope will die fasting"- Ben Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanac)
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To: rabscuttle385

yep


36 posted on 10/10/2009 11:48:40 AM PDT by usshadley (It's time to choose..the empire or the republic? You can't have both. Time is running out.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Palin would have been Paul's VP choice had he won the nominaton, and this is part of the reason why McCain chose her.

Did he say this? I didn't know that at all.

37 posted on 10/10/2009 11:49:11 AM PDT by perfect_rovian_storm (The worst is behind us. Unfortunately it is really well endowed.)
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To: Lakeshark

We’re all trying to jump on a bandwagon that hasn’t even gotten here yet. Palin has yet to declare her run for the nomination. If she does and if she gets the nomination, then she gets to pick a VP running mate. Then if she wins the election she gets to pick cabinet members.

I’d like to see Ronb Paul as Sec. of the Treasury or chairman of the Fed. I think he could do some real good in either of those offices.


38 posted on 10/10/2009 11:49:31 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: oldfart

“Ronb”=”Ron. Sorry... fat fingers.


39 posted on 10/10/2009 11:54:27 AM PDT by oldfart (Obama nation = abomination. Think about it!)
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To: oldfart

I understand that, and agree with what you are saying. I like Sarah, but we’ve got a long time to go before we vote for our best candidate to unseat zero.


40 posted on 10/10/2009 12:00:37 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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