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Polls now show Ron Paul passing Thompson in New Hampshire and tied with McCain in Iowa
USA Daily ^ | 11-14-2007 | Hugo Mann

Posted on 11/14/2007 12:41:26 PM PST by jmc813

Republican presidential candidate Ron Paul is forcing polls to adjust and quickly. A poll released Tuesday by CBS and NY Times shows Paul at 8% in New Hampshire ahead of Fred Thompson and tied with McCain in Iowa.

This follows polls released by the Boston Globe in association with the University of New Hampshire Survey Center, and the Marist College Institute for Public Opinion that also showed Ron Paul passing Fred Thompson in New Hampshire.

“The polls confirm what we already know: Congressman Paul is catching on in the early primary states,” said Paul campaign spokesman Jesse Benton. “His unifying message of freedom, peace, and prosperity is resonating strongly with voters in Iowa and New Hampshire, and we’re rapidly gaining support nationwide.”

The CBS-New York Times poll was conducted November 2-12. On November 5, the Ron Paul campaign brought in a record-breaking $4.2 million online, and an additional $1 million to end the week.

Yesterday John Zogby told Sean Hannity that Ron Paul may embarrass some frontrunners in New Hampshire by getting 15-18% of the vote.

The adjustments by pollsters and pundits polling results regarding Ron Paul raise the issue of whether polls are an inaccurate and lagging indicator of a candidates support. Paul had been sitting at 1-2% for months in media generated polls despite raising considerable funds and drawing large crowds. Paul rallied a crowd of 5,000 in Philadelphia last weekend.

Fox News and the Iowa GOP have decided to use 5% in Iowa or National polls as a bar to exclude candidates from a presidential debate in early December. Visit the USA Daily Forum to discuss this and other issues.


TOPICS: Candidates
KEYWORDS: 2008; 2008polls; elections; fredthompson; ia2008; nh2008; paulspam; ronpaul; ronpaulrevolution; stilllosing
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To: jmc813
In your dreams...

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21 posted on 11/14/2007 1:14:06 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: Oberon

NH is such a tiny place, it is easy for RP to gain traction, but I will say the Paul supporters do really burn the midnight oil on all of this stuff...


22 posted on 11/14/2007 1:14:29 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: RockinRight
Two reasons....

#1. Migrants from the South (MA specifically)

#2. Fred hasn't bent over to kiss the collective butts of eveyone at those stupid "town hall" meetings.

23 posted on 11/14/2007 1:16:27 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: padre35
Paul supporters do really burn the midnight oil on all of this stuff

I don't think it's midnight oil they are burning....more like the wackey weed.

24 posted on 11/14/2007 1:17:58 PM PST by A_Tradition_Continues (THE NEXT GENERATION CONSERVATIVE)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues

That too..;)


25 posted on 11/14/2007 1:19:02 PM PST by padre35 (Conservative in Exile/ Isaiah 3.3)
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To: padre35

I think most of Paul’s supporters burn something other than oil...


26 posted on 11/14/2007 1:22:44 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: RockinRight
Can someone tell me why Fred Thompson does so horribly in NH?

There's an old apocryphal story about New Hampshire. A reporter asked a potential voter "What do you think about Ricahrd Nixon?" The voter responded "I don't know yet, I only met him 3 times".

Fred hasn't met anyone 3 times.

27 posted on 11/14/2007 1:23:08 PM PST by NeoCaveman ("Don't doubt me" - The Great El Rushbo)
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To: RockinRight
"Why does Fred do so horribly in NH?"

Because too many Hampsters eat all that maple taffy, maple jelly beans, maple coffee, etc. in New Hampshire and it kinda clogs up the arteries in the brain......that's why.

We can also point to the Dem transplants from New York City (who have made the state so liberal) who eat all those pastrami sandwiches which have the exact same effect on the little grey cells.

Hopeless in New Hampshire on any culinary level, I guess.

Leni

28 posted on 11/14/2007 1:25:36 PM PST by MinuteGal (Three Cheers for the FRed, White and Blue !!!)
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To: RockinRight
Its 4:20 time for them to get stoned...


29 posted on 11/14/2007 1:30:56 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: NeoCaveman
Good story. Fred Thompson would have been a splendid candidate back in the days before the 24/7 media circus. I beleive William McKinley campaigned for re-election from his front porch in Ohio.

Unfortunately, to beat the witch, I'm afraid we are going to need somebody who will outwork her. Thus far, I haven't seen Fred doing it.

30 posted on 11/14/2007 1:33:17 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Are there any men left in Washington? Or are there only cowards? Ahmad Shah Massoud)
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To: A_Tradition_Continues
#3 The inbread wakos from Durham Ridge...


31 posted on 11/14/2007 1:34:13 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: jmc813

Ron Paul could win in NH. That state has a history of big upsets and voting for wacky candidates.


32 posted on 11/14/2007 1:34:58 PM PST by bshomoic
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To: jmc813

I am pretty sure that Fred will get Georgia and Alabama. That would be a good sample. New Hampshire, Iowa, South Carolina, Florida are probably not going to be in Fred’s column. Having Georgia and Alabama will be nice for him though.


33 posted on 11/14/2007 1:35:09 PM PST by napscoordinator
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To: napscoordinator

He’ll pull off SC and come in second in Iowa and Florida.


34 posted on 11/14/2007 1:38:58 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: napscoordinator
Hard to tell in Florida. All depends how South Florida votes as compared to the Northern half. The relocated New Yorkers along the east coast might give it to Rudy, if not then Romney. Thompson or Hunter will do well in the northern third of the state.


35 posted on 11/14/2007 1:46:29 PM PST by darkwing104 (Let's get dangerous)
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To: napscoordinator

Sounds like you’re poking fun at Thompson’s chances.

Considering your guy won’t place higher than 4th in any state that takes balls.


36 posted on 11/14/2007 1:50:04 PM PST by RockinRight (Just because you're pro-life and talk about God a lot doesn't mean you're a conservative.)
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To: stephenjohnbanker

Do you think maybe they don’t watch enough Law and Order up there? Maybe they don’t watch enough TV to get corrupted by the media BS.


37 posted on 11/14/2007 1:54:10 PM PST by B4Ranch (( "Freedom is not free, but don't worry the U.S. Marine Corps will pay most of your share." ))
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To: darkwing104
In your dreams... http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1925629/posts

This thread is about New Hamshire and Iowa. Rasmussen is a national poll.

38 posted on 11/14/2007 1:56:35 PM PST by jmc813 (.) (.)
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To: NeoCaveman
There's an old apocryphal story about New Hampshire. A reporter asked a potential voter "What do you think about Ricahrd Nixon?" The voter responded "I don't know yet, I only met him 3 times".

Fred hasn't met anyone 3 times.

Unfortunately, I don't think that's true. Most of the viewers have seen plenty of him on television, and his lack of real traction so far surprises me.

He has to campaign on the public persona he already has (and in recent years, that persona seems carefully crafted for just this run).

39 posted on 11/14/2007 2:00:50 PM PST by highball ("I never should have switched from scotch to martinis." -- the last words of Humphrey Bogart)
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To: RockinRight; napscoordinator

Didn’t the RNC just strip NH and/or SC of half their delegates for moving their primary up to such a ridiculously early date?


40 posted on 11/14/2007 2:03:45 PM PST by lesser_satan (READ MY LIPS: NO NEW RINOS | FRED THOMPSON/ DUNCAN HUNTER '08)
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