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Robertson's Statement Regarding Terrorist Attack on America (Pat says we deserved 911)
PatRobertson.com ^ | September 2001 | Pat Robertson

Posted on 11/08/2007 8:34:00 AM PST by Captain Kirk

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To: highlander_UW
"The entire nation accepts abominations such as abortion as the law of the land"

I think it's more correct to say that we accept the principles and the mechanics of the rule of law, though not what some of those laws are, for the laws are subject to change and the rule of law isn't. Some believe that abortion is okay, regardless of whether it's legal or not. Some believe abortion is not okay, regardless of whether it's legal or not. Therefore, I don't think you can say that the entire nation accepts abortion, whether it's legal or not. Most FReepers would not want to be included in 'the entire nation.' And I don't think you would either.

I agree with your final point.

41 posted on 11/08/2007 12:38:58 PM PST by Eastbound
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To: Eastbound
I won't deny that punishing a whole nation seems unjust to us, but it has numerous precedents in the Bible, which also says that God's ways and His logic and timing are not ours. Looking at the example of Israel, which became idolatrous and corrupt, we are told that God used even more ungodly peoples to punish them. In the long run, the Jews came back and were restored. A similar doctrine is also found in the New Testament, which says that God chastises those whom he Loves. Bad things are allowed to happen, because in the long run they will strengthen and purify someone. (Remember how Solzhenitsyn said that persecuted Russian believers had reached a heightened spiritual state, beyond that of most Westerners?) Thoroughly evil people are often allowed to flourish in this world, because there is no point in improving them that way; they are incorrigible. In the Christian view, God is really only concerned with the eternal fate of your soul. He will allow bad things in your life, or a nation's existence, if they conform with His long-term plan.

On a worldly level, consider that many have posted here on FR that it's apparently going to take a bloodbath by terrorists in this country to drive the multicultural, PC, treasonous Left out of influence in this country? Sometimes a country might have to go through the fire before it wakes from its hedonistic stupor. Lots of innocent people, people who were not deluded, but saw the danger, will suffer in the process. That's just the way the world works, I'm afraid.

As for voting an expressing opposition being enough, I think the record shows that is not enough. The almost complete abandonment of the academic and intellectual arena to the Left is the reason we keep going downhill. Aren't there any conservatives with enough money to found schools, or buy media outlets? No conservative should vote, then go home to business as usual, leaving his kids in public schools, or watching junk on TV, and not expect disaster sooner or later. It's a cultural war, not just a political one,.

42 posted on 11/08/2007 1:04:54 PM PST by hellbender
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To: Captain Kirk

I gotta admit, Pat Robertson must have PO’d God pretty bad to have been stricken so severely with this mental deterioration. Fess up Pat, I want all the details.


43 posted on 11/08/2007 2:26:50 PM PST by M203M4 (Fred Thompson is only 87% pure! Quick;y, to the Giuliani/Huckster MSMobile!)
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To: Long Island Pete
I am not equating them morally (Phelps and Robertson.) I am equating them by their choice of words and how they perceive the enemy.

Give it up, Pete.
Robertson is a well respected Christian leader who makes political statements that people are free to disagree with.

Phelps, on the other hand, is a vile, despicable persecutor of Christianity, disguised as a Christian and you fell for it.

44 posted on 11/08/2007 4:01:58 PM PST by Nephi ( $100m ante is a symptom of the old media... the Ron Paul Revolution is the new media's choice.)
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To: hellbender

Thank you for your reply. I’m sure we are using the same equation, only the value of some of the the variables differ.


45 posted on 11/09/2007 12:49:12 AM PST by Eastbound
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To: Nephi
Phelps, on the other hand, is a vile, despicable persecutor of Christianity, disguised as a Christian and you fell for it.

I never fell for any of his crap. Sorry you cant see that blaming the ways of others instead of the actual person who commits the act is wrong, no matter how well respected that person is.

46 posted on 11/09/2007 7:56:32 AM PST by Long Island Pete
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LOL, most understand totally what he was saying, and understand totally what RP was saying, that US foreign policy invited terrorist attacks.

Another intellectually dishonest discussion, sigh.

47 posted on 11/09/2007 8:02:22 AM PST by roses of sharon
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