WELL DONE SIR!!!
Posted on 11/05/2007 6:34:09 PM PST by grundle
I gave $50 to bush in 2004 and was a poll watcher volunteer. Yesterday I gave $100 to Paul. FYI
WELL DONE SIR!!!
Well, I must admit... even if Presbyterianism IS, indeed, far closer to the Conciliar-Governance Model of the Church as found in the Jerusalem Council of Acts 15 than the congregationalist anarchy of Baptist-Independency (here OP haughtily displays his Presbyterian biases), I think it's only fair to give Credit where Due.
I will, of course, always be the first to point out the many Blood-Crimes of Arminianism in England whenever anyone dares to raise a similar argument against Calvinism in Geneva.
But I will also try to be Fair, and admit... those were not, at least, Baptist crimes. Archbishop Laud, while a vicious and consummate Arminian, was no Baptist. Whether Calvinist or Arminian, the Baptists have never sought the blood of fellow Christians (or even dubious pseudo-"christians") AT ALL.
(Of course, it could be argued at this point that the Baptists had a natural aversion to State Power, having been beaten upside the head with the cudgel for so long. But I shall assume that their theology on this subject is not self-interested... merely Right).
I always thought that Cromwell did a very good job and was very tolerant for his age.
Harrumph!
Oliver Cromwell was, indeed, "very tolerant for his age" (not that much of a credit), and indeed "did a very good job". But then, no one is denying that the man was a Logistical and Tactical Military Genius; however, that's hardly the question!!
Granted, he struck down the Romanist Episcopacy, perhaps doing more than any other man of his Century for the Cause of English Freedom from the Papish Thrall. All well and good, I suppose (again, giving Credit where Due). But Cromwell, in Power, was hardly a friend either to Presbyterianism OR Baptistry... do you suppose we claim him for our own? I think NOT!
In fact, once in power, Oliver Cromwell (that self-convinced advocate of Calvinist-Congregationalism) practically did everything in his power to Establish a sort of Calvinist Independency... can any more of a Bastard sort of system be imagined?
An "Independency"... Established and Protected by the State??
Shall we Free the Local Pastors from the iron hand of Popes and Bishops... only to deliver them to the tender "protections" of Politicians and Barristers? I daresay, the Christian Mind BOGGLES at the thought!!
"Government funding of religious organizations will transform them into adjuncts of the federal welfare state, more concerned about obeying federal rules and regulations than fulfilling the obligations of their faith." -- Ron Paul
I say, FAWKES on Cromwell. (tee, hee, I got away with "cussin" without actually "cussin"). An "Established" Independency is NO Independency at all.
The Baptists are Right on this issue, and they've ALWAYS been Right on this issue -- The Church is ONLY "Independent" if it can exist without Government Support AT ALL (Old Baptist saying, "Let the Truth win out").
Church and State, Presbyter and Magistrate, are separate and distinct God-ordained Institutions, with separate and distinct God-ordained Duties... and unless your name be Jesus Christ of Nazareth, Returning from Heaven to make all Kingdoms your Footstool, don't be pretending you can combine these offices and duties in your own all-perfect Self!!
Cromwell... FAUGH. You can have 'im. (Good Tactician and Logicistician, though. Like Jehu, had God-given gifts and used them... but not always for the Right).
The point of active resistance is when a man sees his own family being threatened with the loss of freedom. The first priority a husband has is to his wife and her protection and a father to his children. This are God given responsibilities that a man undertakes when he marries and has children.
That's a really interesting take on a knotty question (i.e., "When is Christian Revolution justified?") -- local Christian adherence to local Christian responsibilities; hearth, home, and family first and foremost.
An interesting take; applies to the Real World, I like that. I'm sorry to say that mine is perhaps a bit more Philosophical.
I'm of the Calvinist-Presbyterian persuasion that Passive Resistance is justified at the point that the Magistrate fails to uphold the First Law (against Murder, Genesis 9:6) which therefore justifies my participation in Operation Rescue; and I think that Active Resistance is justified when the Government actively performs Murder (such as in Nazi Germany, or China's mandatory Abortions).
Of course, given my philosophical take on the subject, I suppose that if the US Government ever reverses the Hyde Amendment and starts actively subsidizing Abortions, I shall be honor-bound to start advocating Active Resistance. Oh, well... my Life is not my own; it's merely a certain span of Time entrusted to me. I've seen the inside of a Prison before.
I guess there's really no such thing as an "Ex-Rescuer". Once you've Rescued... you may have given your heart to Jesus, but your arse belongs to OR. If the call went out again tomorrow from Rescue America HQ, saying, "Wichita. 2008. Summer of Mercy 2. This time we are going to close Tiller the Killer down for good!"... I'd go.
I'd sell my house, pay off the remaining bills, stick my money in a cash-value insurance policy (Why? Can't be attached by the Feds. USSC Ruling), and ask my wife to either go with me or at least try to understand... but I'd go. And I'd expect the American Church to sell us down the river yet again and the Federal Government to break us yet again and be left after 7,000 arrests with nothing but a hard core of Orthodox Presbyterians and Roman Catholic "lepers", disowned and forgotten by American Christianity, and it still wouldn't matter.
I'd still go.
Cripes, that's pathetic.
But, it is what it is.
There's just no such thing as an "Ex-Rescuer".
And... Congressman Ron Paul has actually HIRED Operation Rescue advocates onto his personal staff. The Church itself has treated us like Lepers... and Dr. Ron Paul has hired us.
Ergo, my personal devotion to the man is somewhere in the "follow him to the very gates of Hell" vicinity.
Sorry for the bad representation, then.
Hunter's a good man on a lot of issues. Not the Fiscal Conservative I'd like to see, but still my #2 choice.
My best to you and yours. God bless.
No way. GOP primary voters won't nominate a defeatist on foreign policy. That's his primary undoing. Beyond that, personality/presentation DO matter--not just policy. You know, the shallow stuff. And he sure seems like a small, squeaky voiced geek to me. I can't see women voting for him.
lol, that reminds me, have you seen this:
http://www.theonion.com/content/video/poll_bullshit_is_most_important?utm_source=EMTF_Onion
Cromwell bump. You have to recognize that the execution of King Charles was a turning point in Western democracy. It was clear: tyrant kings were no longer safe from the people.LOL. The landscape's a little different now.
4000 of them trusted him to deliver their children.
Funny. That's about how many votes he'll get, too.
Highly doubtful, given that at least 40,000 individual donors contibuted an average of $100 each on The Fifth of November.
Gee, did I mention that Ron Paul's fundraising record on November 5th represented the largest single-day fundraising total of any Republican Primary Candidate in history?
And could it possibly have slipped my notice to mention that this also represents the highest ratio of individual small-dollar donations in Republican history?
Well, I'm deeply sorry if I somehow failed to remind you of these facts. But, if it's any consolation, I'll remind you of a few more facts:
Of course, the Republican Anti-War MAJORITY in Iowa has probably been worrying, up till now, about whether or not an Anti-War Republican is "Electable".
$4 Million dollars in one day just bought us a lot of "Electability".
I smell the stench of Soros and his minions too.
they'd do well to heed
how much was corporate ?
sources please
Cannot provide until his donor list is released.
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