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To: traviskicks
It's about time someone injected some cool reason into this fracas and came to Paul's defense. He said it clumsily and it was inevitable that the other candidates' ambition, sound bite journalism, and simpleton conservatives would make him out to be a leftist America-hater, but what he said is fundamentally true. Islamic hatred towards the US did not emerge out of a vacuum. Somewhere along the line some episode or general policy of interventionism contributed to it. Given that many of the followers of a large religion would more or less like to see us all killed, perhaps our inclination to constantly control and intervene in world affairs is not always in our best interest.

This is not to say we should cower idly for fear of offending people, or surrender our mantle of world superpower. But perhaps we should be more cognizant of the fact that actions have unintended consequences, and that defending our vital interests in the world is a bit like using one finger to plug a dam with many holes.

8 posted on 05/18/2007 8:34:09 AM PDT by ForOurFuture
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To: ForOurFuture

Then why are muzzies attacking Thais, Balinese Indonesians (Hindu), Sudanese, Nigerians, etc, etc, etc???? US and Israel has nothing to do with them. It is estimated that muzzies are involved in 45 conflicts with non muzzies. Non of them involve US or Israel. So what is the story????


11 posted on 05/18/2007 8:41:08 AM PDT by Fee ( R)
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To: ForOurFuture
Islamic hatred towards the US did not emerge out of a vacuum.

It comes from the same place as their hatred for all other infidels. The Quran.

Human history since 622 has been distorted and disfigured by Islam's hatred for non-Islamics: Jews, Armenians, Hindus, apostate muslims, the Danish, etc. It's simply incorrect to state that Islamic hate must have been due to something America did.

Muslims will kill their own daughters due to a perceived slight to their Ird - why should we expect there to be a rational cause for their hatred for the US?

14 posted on 05/18/2007 8:46:15 AM PDT by agere_contra
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To: ForOurFuture
The fanaticism illustrated by 9/11 didn’t begin when Bush #1 attacked Saddam’s forces in Kuwait or our military was stationed in Saudi Arabia. There's a litany of attacks perpetrated on the U.S. going back to the 80's that had no basis for retaliation. Of course, in the fanatics minds, we sure did something. How about exist, like the Israeli's?’s.

Paul is a blame America candidate and he’ll never win election. He’ll only get praise from the democRATS for being a RINO.

29 posted on 05/18/2007 8:54:35 AM PDT by tonysamm
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To: ForOurFuture
But perhaps we should be more cognizant of the fact that actions have unintended consequences, and that defending our vital interests in the world is a bit like using one finger to plug a dam with many holes.

But on the flip side, not taking action, also has unintended consequences.

People are going to be pissed off no matter what course of action (or non-action) you take. Just make sure you piss the right people off, and from what I've seen, our actions in Iraq have pissed off the right people.

114 posted on 05/18/2007 11:06:10 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: ForOurFuture

Hmm Ron Paul basically acts as Bin Laden’s propaganda mouth piece and supposed “Conservatives” fall all over themselves to make excuses for him. If anyone on the Left had said what Paul said the very people makes excuses here would call them traitors.


152 posted on 05/19/2007 9:57:15 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (If you will try being smarter, I will try being nicer.)
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