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A Constitutional Voting Amendment - Cause let's face it, Dead people don't need to be voting.
Angie White

Posted on 01/17/2005 3:03:55 AM PST by AngieWhite

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To: TrailofTears

Most fraud is a felony, so they should be barred.


21 posted on 05/20/2005 7:44:20 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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Scott, not only should they be banned, but they should be banned for life if involved with voter fraud. In most states felons can get their rights restored after a given while. We need to make voter fraud a "never again" issue.


22 posted on 05/20/2005 8:02:48 AM PDT by TrailofTears ( Only a fool thinks we can squander freedom in a phony exchange for safety without becoming slaves.)
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I agree, but wouldn’t that discriminate against democrats?


23 posted on 05/20/2005 8:57:18 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: TrailofTears
re: Banned for life for voter fraud. That gets to the real issue. The problem is not that we need more laws. The problem is that the laws we currently have are not enforced. There has been rampant vote fraud in Illinois for years by both parties... and when both parties have held the position of US Attoney, or State AG, or County States Attorney. Even when the vote fraud has been handed to the prosecutor on a silver platter with eye witnesses eager to testify and hard paper evidence, both R and D attorneys have not prosecuted.

My second biggest disappointment when we had a GOP Crook County States Attorney was that he did not prosecute the vote fraud I and my friends presented to him. (The biggest disappointment was when he did not prosecute the arson for profit by the 2d most powerful politician in Chcicago and his ring of cronies for which we had very solid eye witness testimony and evidence.)

Currently in Washington State, I hear talk of everything except prosecution of those who committed fraud. There was talk of prosecution in Wisconsin. Did anything come of that? I don't remember.

What good are more laws if the existing ones are not enforced?

24 posted on 05/23/2005 10:22:30 AM PDT by NormalGuy
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It doesn't take any longer to produce a picture ID, such as a driver's license, than it does to produce a voter's card...I don't see anything wrong with a picture ID.



25 posted on 05/25/2005 8:24:26 PM PDT by scrabblehack
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What good are more laws if the existing ones are not enforced?

Because it makes (some of) us feel good that something is being done - anything, even it does nothing.
26 posted on 05/26/2005 3:15:21 AM PDT by R. Scott (Humanity i love you because when you're hard up you pawn your Intelligence to buy a drink.)
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To: AngieWhite

If you require a picture ID how will the illegal aliens and the Chicago precincts of Baltimore MD ever deliver for our beloved Democrats.


27 posted on 06/08/2005 8:35:02 PM PDT by kublia khan (total war brings absolute victory)
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To: AngieWhite
Are existing laws inadequate and we need more laws?

Or is the problem the lack of enforcement of existing laws?
What makes you think that any new law would be enforced?

Vote Fraud has been common in Illinois for over a century. Only on rare occasions will a prosecutor come down with a token indictment the week before election day. Vote Fraud is ignored by both R and D prosecutors, both County, State and Federal prosecutors. Numerous solid cases (with all the reasearch, witnesses and what they will testify to notarized and evidence) have been given to allegedly crime fighting, law-and-order prosecutors by me directly, and by my friends and apparently by strangers to me. The prosecutors are usually too busy having lunch with the person they would have to indict.

In the cases like the current US Attorney Patrick Fitzgerald, he is apparently too busy chasing million dollar bribery and extortion to deal with violations where the bribe involved is so small it is only a misdemeanor.

In other words, vote fraud is cheap and common. The reality is that the way to fight it is for the GOP (in Dem areas) to not write off those Dem areas, but to spend the time and money to go into those Dem areas and increase the GOP voter from 5% to 35% which can be done in the inner city with hard work. Of course, 35% does not carry that small district. But it sure helps to win statewide and to win the larger districts.

But listen to Blackwell's Conservative Leadership Institute and to all the professional paid consultants and they consistently tell the GOP to write off the areas where they cannot win and limit campaigning to solely those areas where they can win.

Maybe we get what we deserve.

28 posted on 06/09/2005 11:01:21 AM PDT by NormalGuy
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To: AngieWhite

These are all good. Only one more thing I would add- stretch the voting period out, perhaps moving it to a friday and the weekend perhaps. A lot of people work and would benefit from having another day to vote.
I would love to see election reform like this- if all the fraud is denied, no dem may ever get elected again! ;)


29 posted on 07/03/2005 9:05:52 AM PDT by 13Sisters76
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To: AngieWhite
Voting is NOT a states' rights issue. A federal election should require FEDERAL standards. When voting laws in North Carolina are not the same as voting laws in Kansas, and when voting for the same national race (such as a Presidental election), this is obviously a problem.

Why? Votes are not aggregated across state lines. After all we have the electoral college. Why should my state lower its standards to match Illinois. With the electoral college, racking up a huge fraudulent margin for a presidential ticket does not improve that ticket's national standing. Once a state is firmly in one candidate's or another's column, there is no advantage to putting more campaign resources into that state.

30 posted on 04/24/2007 6:52:27 AM PDT by Paleo Conservative
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