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To: patent
So trying and failing is better than never trying?

Lots of men became priests out of the goodness of their hearts who didn't belong in the priesthood. They weren't cut out for it, and the Church had no business ordaining them.

I think you're way too hard on them, but, that's just me.

68 posted on 10/08/2003 9:38:57 AM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter! You'll save at least one life, maybe two!)
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To: sinkspur
They weren't cut out for it, and the Church had no business ordaining them.

Outlined quite nicely in Michael Rose's book "Goodbye! Good Men" - and like I've mentioned here before, even a nobody like me knows two guys who quit the seminary in the 80's because they were disgusted at the behaviour of the openly homosexual seminarians and also the worldly education they were receiving at the seminary in my diocese.

72 posted on 10/08/2003 9:45:06 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: sinkspur
So trying and failing is better than never trying?
I don’t think I entirely understand your comment, but to the extent I do, I don’t see those as the two options.

Therefore, I feel compelled to reword it as not two choices, but one.

We will all fail in little or big ways, but we all must continue to try despite that failure.

Failure never, IMHO, excuses giving up. There have been many, many times where I have thought I could not fulfill my vocation, marriage and parenting. I know I’m inadequate, but for the grace of God, and I know I will fail at times. I’m still here, and frankly in my more lucid moments it is clear this is where God means for me to be.

It takes work to hold to any Vow, and I will hold to this one no matter what. Don’t take me wrong, I’m very happy with my life and marriage. But even if I weren’t, I made a promise I will not break. I suffered through some hard times to get to where we are now, and I'll suffer again if need be.

Lots of men became priests out of the goodness of their hearts who didn't belong in the priesthood. They weren't cut out for it, and the Church had no business ordaining them.

I think you're way too hard on them, but, that's just me.

I am certainly hard on them, at least by modern standards. The TRUTH is often hard (“it is a hard saying, who can bear it”). Its hardness leaves us no more room for disobedience.

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74 posted on 10/08/2003 9:49:27 AM PDT by patent (A baby is God's opinion that life should go on. Carl Sandburg)
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