[dangus]

Well, here's where we may disagree:

Social Justice has, in my experience, become a code-word for communist. Sorry, I know that SOUNDS terrible, and I hate saying it, because I'm aware of what social justice USED to mean, but I have scarcely heard that phrase uttered outside of socialist agitprop.

In any parish I've ver been associated with (and we're talking dozens in 6 states), the Social Justice committee was 100% communist, except my dear, old, recently-Democrat Dad who for about two years tried to teach teach them things as the concept of "spiritual charity." The dear-old former union organizer is now a die-hard Republican. I'd like to think I helped win him over, (I know his moral horror at Clinton helped) but I think he had an experience similar to Reagen's:

"They were, of course, all communists."

[JNB]

I agree, whenever I see social justice in parish' in the US(and I assume it will be elsewhere as well) or "Peace & Justice", yes, its a code word for liberal secular humanism. What I am talking about in reading many of the the bishops stands on foreign and economic relations is not social justice as we normally see it defined today, but social justice based on Pope Leo XIII encyclical, Rerum Novarum, on the conditions of the working class. Based on the list, it seems most of the so called "social justice" Cardinals as Mr. Allen calls them are orthodox on doctrine, maybe not bad trad standards, but still, they arent Cardinal Martinis either.

But yes, on the parish comitties I have seen, most the members are usualkly women in their 50s and 60s who are stuck in the 60s.