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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Can you produce these texts? What councils were these? How would you know that they are Church councils?

A good book on the subject, if you are interested: When Jesus Became God: The Struggle to Define Christianity during the Last Days of Rome.

Are you sure these weren't councils held by heretics and opposed by the Catholic Church?

Some may have been defined this way after the fact. At the time, they were as authoritative as Nicea.

376 posted on 10/01/2003 7:00:22 AM PDT by malakhi (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.)
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To: malakhi
>>Some may have been defined this way after the fact. At the time, they were as authoritative as Nicea.

The Pope must proclaim a council as authoritative. Nicea was called by the Pope. Other councils were regional, as opposed to ecumenical.
402 posted on 10/01/2003 8:15:38 AM PDT by dangus
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To: malakhi
Some may have been defined this way after the fact. At the time, they were as authoritative as Nicea.

If the Pope did not accept them, they were not authoritative, no matter how many other Bishops subscribed to them, and no matter how many Emperor's tried to promulgate them as law. Can you point to where the Pope sent his legates to them and signed off on their works? Otherwise, they are just another conventicle of heretics as was the infamous Robber Synod (Latrocinium) of Ephesus.

I'm afraid you will find that they were authoritative for nobody of any import in the Catholic Church. Maybe in the Arian Church or among the Arian Emperor's of Rome they were authoritative, but we are Catholics, not Arians.

431 posted on 10/01/2003 9:38:57 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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