[Wrigley]

I wonder of the movie shows the part where Luther is told where the bible explicitly demonstrates purgatory...

Let's see those Biblical sources.

Do you think they'll show that part?

I'm more interested in your Scriptural support.

[dangus]

>>I wonder of the movie shows the part where Luther is told where the bible explicitly demonstrates purgatory...>>

>Let's see those Biblical sources.>

They were strong enough to convince Luther that He concluded their authors intended to establish beliefs Luther couldn't tolerate. He openly acknowledged he removed them from the bible because they were contrary to his perception of God.

They include:
Some of the ones I remember include:

Revelations 20 depicts the dead being called forth from Hades to be judged. If they *all* are to be condemned, then they would have been judged already when they were sent to Hades the *first* time. (suggesting purgatory to Luther)

Peter (not sure which) says that the disobedient believer will survive, but as one passing through fire. (suggesting Purgatory to Luther)

Peter also desribes the risen Jesus as having preached to the SPIRITS in prison, which Luther understood to be purgatory.

James insisted that true religion consisted of works (violating sola fidelis)

2 Maccabees depicted victorious Jews offering loot to the temple in order to atone for the sins of their fallen beloved comrades (the same passage is the source for the date of Christmas!) (This book was never restored to the Protestant bible)

Hebrews describes Jews preferring to be tortured than to be released, so they might gain a better resurrection, a reference to 2 Maccabees

In the portion of Daniel which Luther excised, Shadrack, Meshach and Obednigo praise God for purifying them by exposing them to the fire in the furnace, without allowing them to be consumed in the flames.