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To: FormerLib
could be (possibly mis-) interpreted as meaning that Christ couldn't have done it with her

Something to ponder. Could Christ have done it without her? In a certain sense no. He needed Mary to be truly made man. A theophany would not have sufficed for true God to be made true man.

27 posted on 09/15/2003 11:57:56 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
Could Christ have done it without her? In a certain sense no.

And in another larger sense, yes.

Unless, of course, you believe that this was simply beyond what He is capable of.

The Virgin Birth was foretold and was a sign and wonder that heralded His arrival.

But if it was not to be, the prophets would have foretold a different prophecy and we would have still beheld a sign and wonder that heralded His arrival.

Still, not recognizing Mary as Christ's first and greatest Saint is not a wise path.

28 posted on 09/15/2003 12:02:50 PM PDT by FormerLib (There's no hope on the left!)
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