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To: ultima ratio
Williamson is made the excuse for a rejection of SSPX, I think.

Williamson is not made the excuse, he makes himself the reason why the SSPX cannot move forward.

It is his insistence that the Holy See retrovalidate his consecration that is holding up everything. The Holy See cannot declare his consecration valid without giving a prefabricated excuse for schism to every leftist bishop in the world. He knows this and he is insisting on this point because he knows that if the SSPX and the Holy See reconcile, his three brother bishops will retain their office while he will most likely be laicized.

But any fraternity may have a weak link.

I agree. That is why I, unlike some, do not like to generalize about the entire SSPX due to the actions of a few members.

He has never been representative--and even Rome knows this.

I agree. The question arises: why then does the SSPX defer to Williamson's agenda?

Because if Fellay et al. overruled him, he would create a schism in the SSPX and greatly damage the society.

This is why Hoyos negotiates cordially with the other three bishops, but not with him.

I agree. Williamson has basically told the Holy See that Williamson, who has never been in communion with the Holy See at any time in his entire life, gets to dictate what the Holy See considers valid or invalid.

There is no point in talking to someone who only listens to himself.

43 posted on 09/12/2003 1:13:57 PM PDT by wideawake (God bless our brave soldiers and their Commander in Chief)
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To: wideawake
Look, I have never heard that the situation is as you suggest, that Williamson is demanding that his consecration be validated. On the surface such a request is superfluous since the consecrations were absolutely valid, though not licit. Are you suggesting that the Archbishop had not consecrated bishops validly? How can this be since Rome has never questioned the validity of the consecrations? I have no idea where you are coming from with this. The bishops of SSPX are all valid bishops and are certainly recognized as such by the Pontiff. You seem to be confusing validity with legality.

The situation is very dangerous for the SSPX right now. It does not quite trust Rome to keep its word--and it has the Vatican crackdown on FSSP as an example of how the Holy See is still willing to stick it to traditionalists. Now may indeed be the right time for "regularization"--but this could also be a ploy to split the Society. Right now it is flourishing. In fact, it is only by maintaining a quasi-independent stance that the Society has been able to preserve the traditional faith from the surrounding corruption. Once it becomes fully subject to Rome, it becomes subject to the prevailing corruptive influence--with a chance that the traditionalist movement will be set back considerably, perhaps for hundreds of years.

46 posted on 09/12/2003 4:52:15 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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