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To: Theosis
When many of us were refused tonsure in 1968

And these Conciliarists have the gall to complain about Priest shortages.

How many of us know MANY Orthodox men driven out of the diocesean and religious seminaries?

12 posted on 09/12/2003 4:15:17 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
How many of us know MANY Orthodox men driven out of the diocesean and religious seminaries?

I know two. The whereabouts of the third is unknown. The fourth is a priest who feels like he's operating behind enemy lines. They're all between the ages of 40-45.

14 posted on 09/12/2003 4:48:16 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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The gall maybe; the Gauls,no.
18 posted on 09/12/2003 7:37:43 AM PDT by TradicalRC (Their name is Legion, for they are many...)
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
When many of us were refused tonsure in 1968

And these Conciliarists have the gall to complain about Priest shortages. How many of us know MANY Orthodox men driven out of the diocesean and religious seminaries?

I was reading Pope Paul's letter to Lefebvre the other day (it's in the appendix to "The Pope, the Council and The Mass). He claimed that he wanted Lefebvre working together with him within the Church to fight the "deplorable abuses" of the post-conciliar period. Sounds good, but the reality was totally different. Far from being welcomed within the Church, they were deliberately excluded. These priests who still believed the Catholic faith were refused ordination.

At the same time, Archbishop Lefebvre was being kicked out as superior of the Holy Ghost Fathers, one of the largest orders in the world. The article says that he "resigned," but the reality is that there was a coup which re-wrote the constitution of the order so they could get rid of him because he wasn't "updating" at a fast enough pace for the conciliar revolutionaries. Where was the "familial concern" of Pope Paul while this was going on? While the leader of a congregation equivalent to several dozen dioceses was being illegally eliminated, where was the concern of Pope Paul? Yet when Archbishop Lefebvre simply wanted to continue using the Mass of all times, his response was instantaneous and draconian. The reality behind the soothing words is very different from what they would pretend.

Fr. Aulagnier believes that things are different today. Maybe he is right. But this is a prudential decision upon which the consequences of being wrong are enormous.

21 posted on 09/12/2003 8:23:20 AM PDT by Maximilian
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