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To: american colleen; BlackElk
I am not as pessimistic as some on this thread and/or some bloggers.

First,I would not have expected any fired up responses from the bishops,most especially Cardinal McCarrick and Bishop Gregory.Their public responses after the meeting with the "dissenters" seemed to me to indicate that they may have been somewhat blindsided by the the list of attendees as well as their agenda.But after that meeting they did not say a thing except they were surprised. I think no coomments were apropriate in this case also,and not at all indicative of their non-agreement. I think those are the only two worth considering anyway.

Second,as I recall this meeting was set up for them to listen to what non-dissenting CAtholics had to say.This appears to have been accomplished."Listening seesions" do not usually result in responses for some time even if they recognized Truth when they heard it.

Third,I sense that the attendees may have felt a resistance to our concerns but when you look at the list of Church representatives,most of them were bureaucrats who work for the Conference,what else could we have expected? Most of them were placed by the Bernardin contingent,who I believe hold good Bishops hostage and play with them and us, by stonewalling,bottlenecking,obfuscating and in all ways thwarting the Holy Father,the curia and good,faithful Catholics. I would have been very suspicious of any enthusiastic,on the spot endorsement of any ideas put forward. Remember,the comments that gave the attendees their "take" were most probably made by men who have a great animose toward us. We have been,and are, what they have been fighting.

My biggest concerns involve the bishops,who were there. I don't know anything about Friend and why he would have been there but I have followed Sklstra and Lynch and I can only pray that they do not ascend to higher postions at the USCCB,they are the "enemy",IMO.Until we get new bishops at the top,we are in trouble. Nonetheless,we should be happy that we are now seeing and identifying those wolves in sheeps' clothing that have practically deccimated the Church in the U.S.

I have one more comment which is probably not worth much,but I wish people would consider and that is,any one of us who at this time still mentions looking at the celibacy issue is really not thinking with the mind of the Church. I wish they would really pray to the Holy Ghost to conform their thinking to the mind of the Church.

46 posted on 09/09/2003 11:42:22 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
I have one more comment which is probably not worth much,but I wish people would consider and that is,any one of us who at this time still mentions looking at the celibacy issue is really not thinking with the mind of the Church. I wish they would really pray to the Holy Ghost to conform their thinking to the mind of the Church.

IOW, anyone who favors optional celibacy should shut up, right?

When the Pope declares mandatory celibacy to be a doctrine of the Church, you'll get your wish.

54 posted on 09/09/2003 2:04:01 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You'll save a life, and enrich your own!)
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