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To: dsc
The bible says the devil can appear as an angel of light. It also says to test the spirits "This is how you can recognize the Spirit of God: Every spirit that acknowledges that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3but every spirit that does not acknowledge Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you have heard is coming and even now is already in the world." (1 John 4:2).

Obviusly discernment is called for, but I don't fully understand the process nor do I have that gift (sometimes I can tell and sometimes I can't). There are other passages in the bible that blur the issue.

Catholics depend on the church to discern these spirits or manifestations. I used to, but there are a couple that have been approved that I serioualy question, so it's back to square one for me.

I still want to believe that Lourdes and Fatima are true and worthy of belief. Certainly there have been any number of healings at Lourdes and I've also read of one at Fatima. What perplexes me is that evidently even these kinds of healings used to happen in the ancient pagan temples, as evidenced by ex-voto offerings found by archeologists (don't know where I read that, but I did).

27 posted on 09/07/2003 9:17:53 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska
"What perplexes me is that evidently even these kinds of healings used to happen in the ancient pagan temples, as evidenced by ex-voto offerings found by archeologists"

That's something that I would have to examine very carefully before accepting. Especially given the predeliction of the PC for finding what they want to find.

29 posted on 09/07/2003 9:32:35 PM PDT by dsc
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To: Aliska
What perplexes me is that evidently even these kinds of healings used to happen in the ancient pagan temples...

Skepticism is in order. A better measure might be whether any documented miracles (not "wonders") have occured among non-Christians today. (Although, if so, it would still be by the grace of Christ). Anyway, the only miracles that I am aware of are Christian.

56 posted on 09/08/2003 7:28:28 AM PDT by Aquinasfan (Isaiah 22:22, Rev 3:7, Mat 16:19)
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