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To: american colleen; Hermann the Cherusker
While this is probably true:
He said that people widely cite Bruskewicz' diocese as one with many seminarians because it is very orthodox BUT it is because seminarians leave their own diocese to escape the progressive seminaries and attend in Lincoln or Omaha --- in other words, those men are not really from Lincoln or Omaha and so vocations are not any higher there than they are in the progressive dioceses.
Isn't is also true that these men who attend seminaries in Lincoln or Omaha become diocesian priests within Bruskewicz's diocese? In other words, regardless of where these men came from they are becoming priests and will we assigned to parishes in Nebraska. The question to ask is: would these same men have become priests if they were required to attend a seminary in their more progressive diocese? I suspect the answer is NO and, therefore, the premise that orthodox diocese lead to more vocations is still true.
18 posted on 09/07/2003 10:35:43 AM PDT by cebadams (much better than ezra)
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To: cebadams
The question to ask is: would these same men have become priests if they were required to attend a seminary in their more progressive diocese? I suspect the answer is NO and, therefore, the premise that orthodox diocese lead to more vocations is still true.

Good question. I'm thinking of a couple of Boston College grads I know who attended St. John's seminary in Boston back in the early 80s. Both left - said the seminary was like a gay bar and they were in the hetero minority. But then when I think about it, if they really had a vocation, maybe they would have persevered or switched seminaries. Look at Fr. Trigilio and Fr. Brighenti - endured a lot in their seminary back in the 70s/80s and held on until ordination.

You guys sort it out! Too many ifs, ands or buts for my limited abilities!

What I thought was sad in my area was when a guy here discerned a calling in his 30s. He was transformed by the Tridentine Mass at our Indult parish, quit his lucrative job and went into FSSP seminary in Nebraska. He came back to celebrate his first Mass at the indult parish and then went back to Nebraska because - no room at the Inn here! One indult parish (which is also an NO parish) and there is already a priest for that congregation, so they didn't need the new FSSP priest. So he left an archdiocese that has a self defined priest shortage. Makes no sense. If, as we hear all the time, the laity are demanding the Eucharist (which crosses all linguistic barriers) and there are not enough priests to distribute the Eucharist, you'd think the laity would be grateful to God to have a priest say the Mass in any language. And I suspect they would! But the chattering ordained class is deciding for the laity that the laity will only accept priests who say the NO Mass.

19 posted on 09/07/2003 10:59:22 AM PDT by american colleen
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To: cebadams; american colleen
Yes, they become Priests in the diocese they study for. No, they would not have become priests otherwise.
27 posted on 09/07/2003 1:22:07 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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