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Aliska,

I empathize with your concerns, but...

Are you aware that switching from baby formula to breast-feeding alone can halve the number of children a woman has? And marriage does not mean that the couple must have sex constantly. Periodic abstinence may be advisable. 12 children may be too many, but three or four are healthy. (2 seems the best for wealth.)

But mostly, people do need to put their trust in God to provide. The chastisement may be horrifying: Within decades, European civilization will be in ruins, if something doesn't change fast, because no-one is having babies. They will be overrun by chaotic hordes of Muslims, follwed by an absolute collapse of the financial system. At current birth rates, the population of Italy in 2300 will be THREE! The modern, western economy is built on growth. The response, to import millions of aliens, is devestating both to our economy, and the economies of the nations that we receive them from. But that is the reason why we don't have such a dire population problem.

Overpopulation exists in East Africa, and Asia. Not in the Western world. We, as a society, desperately NEED people to make babies, and most people who consider it a luxurious option end up working to make it harder on those who have children. ("Why should I pay for their schools?" "Why should they get family sick leave?" "Why shouldn't dependents pay tax?") They don't know that their 901K plans, mutual funds and social security policies are worthless if there is not a next generation to provide the economic growth.

Are you aware that switching from baby formula to breast-feeding alone can halve the number of children a woman has?

Yes! I did genealogy and the kids used to be spaced about two years apart, just like clockwork!

I couldn't breastfeed. I think kids are emotionally healthier when they are breastfed.

12 children may be too many, but three or four are healthy. (2 seems the best for wealth.)

Catholic Moralists state that families should have at least four children. This isn't a matter of sexual morality but of justice towards society.

If no one has more than two or three kids, its unlikely we'll have priests and religious because of family pressures, and the population will not be able to make up for those who never marry or marry to late, and those who are sterile.

So four children is a matter of ones duties towards society. After that, it is up to your free choice.

Anyone can manage with four kids today if they really wanted to.

Within decades, European civilization will be in ruins, if something doesn't change fast, because no-one is having babies.

Not so. The liberal atheistic section of Europe is killing itself off. Catholics around Europe excepting Italy, Poland, and Spain, are currently averaging 3-4 infant baptisms per marriage depending on the country. This includes Ireland, Austria, Germany, France, Belgium, Switzerland, Netherlands, Britain, etc.

For example, Catholics in France had 125,000 of the 250,000 marriages in 1995, but 400,000 of the 700,000 children. The France has been trending at 3.2 Catholic children per Catholic marriage for the past decade.

The people driving Europe towards ruin are the non-Catholics.

At current birth rates, the population of Italy in 2300 will be THREE!

That seems like an extremely unlikely trend. The Italian Catholic family is averaging two infant baptisms per marriage, and these make up over 90% of the births. The portion of the population not even reproducing their own replacements is the suicidal atheistic portion.

There are 280,000 marriages in Italy in 1995, and 245,000 were in the Church. There were 520,000 births in total, and 480,000 were Baptised. Non-Catholics are averaging one child per famiy, Catholics are averaging two.