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To: hiho hiho; drstevej
The point is to wear your best, just like you would if you had an audience with GW Bush, QE II, or the Pope! This is an internal thing that YOU do to show YOUR respect for someone greater than YOURSELF! Where in the world did some of you think that this was a move to impose a dress code on OTHERS?!

See, I don't buy this line. If I were to go visit GWB, or some other potentate, I would wear a suit and tie because that is what our culture expects.

But at church, where did the suit and tie idea come from? It's decidedly not biblical in origin, but rather cultural. "Sunday best" was not about piety, but rather showing off to the community.

James has a lot to say about those who make judgment based on the quality of someone's clothing -- its personal favoritism, damn hypocrisy.

More than a few evil men wore suits and ties to church.

Now, I am explicitly assuming we're not talking about issues of modesty.

49 posted on 09/03/2003 12:44:22 PM PDT by jude24 ("Some things are worse than death... like running out of cookies.")
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To: jude24
More than a few evil men wore suits and ties to church.


53 posted on 09/03/2003 12:55:11 PM PDT by malakhi (Thy word is a lamp unto my feet, and a light unto my path.)
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To: jude24
James has a lot to say about those who make judgment based on the quality of someone's clothing -- its personal favoritism, damn hypocrisy.

Worth Posting.


60 posted on 09/03/2003 1:35:06 PM PDT by Between the Lines ("What Goes Into the Mind Comes Out in a Life")
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To: jude24
See, I don't buy this line. If I were to go visit GWB, or some other potentate, I would wear a suit and tie because that is what our culture expects.

Now it seems to me I remember a very handsome young man in his Sunday best that visited a church I attended :>)How you doing Jude? Are you back at school?

71 posted on 09/03/2003 3:38:29 PM PDT by RnMomof7 (Saved by grace , Calvinist by choice)
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To: jude24
But at church, where did the suit and tie idea come from? It's decidedly not biblical in origin, but rather cultural. "Sunday best" was not about piety, but rather showing off to the community.

I think you assume too much, my FRiend. For Christianity is certainly cultural. I'm afraid the problem with American Christianity is that is waaaaaaay too individualistic. IMHO, that is why we see so much apostasy. That one would dress in a certain manner as a reflection of a particular christian culture not only may bring to the mind of the individual a certian reverence but it also is a reflection to the pagan world that we belong to the "city of God".

After we escaped the dualism of Catholicism notice how culture took off when we incorporated God into all aspects of our lives as a culture. Is it a coincidence that some of the greatest cultural accomplishments occured during the 17th century? What this country needs is a decidedly christian culture.

134 posted on 09/04/2003 10:49:29 AM PDT by lockeliberty
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