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To: NYer; sandyeggo; american colleen; Salvation; RobbyS
I have a kind of different take on the John F.Kennedy story. I think his worst mistake was compromising and/or lying about his commitment to Catholicism. I believe he did that to get to the Presidency in order to curb the tide,engulfing the world.

Rereading Divini Redemptoris,reminds me of the wordview of ordinary devout Catholics in the fifties. Communism was the true and real enemy of the Church.By then the Church had already been infiltrated by communists but the Church was pursuing a steady course,and making converts in the process. This was dismaying to those who thought WWII would strike the death blow to Christianity.

Many in the Catholic education system sold out to the enemy for the almighty dollars that came to those who provided research that affirmed the "desired" conclusions of the "powers that were".These were the churchmen who went to Vatican II and upended it.

Kennedy was permitted to win the election only because he convinced them,he was a new breed of Catholic,in other words not committed.He was surrounded by "academia",who later lionized him which then allowed for debunking him.I know this sounds confusing but his assasination caused me to do a good deal of reading,thinking and praying at the time it occurred.I was convinced that he was murdered because when his "masters" pulled his strings,he did not respond as expected.

I watched Charles Keating do somewhat the same thing as the Kennedy's did,i.e.,joining the "game" that was being played by the big boys and once in,trying to influence the prevailing "zeitgeist". He only went to prison for his transgressions but his family was ruined in the process.

I also am convinced that Reagen was not supposed to live but at least was suffiently scared into a somewhat immobilized position. Ditto,Pope John PaulII,who just became more careful in his proclamations.

If anyone has read Taylor Caldwell's "Captains and Kings",i'd be interested in your take on it. Thanks.

17 posted on 09/01/2003 9:52:45 AM PDT by saradippity
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To: saradippity
Pope John PaulII,who just became more careful in his proclamations.

How so?

19 posted on 09/01/2003 11:17:27 AM PDT by Codie
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To: saradippity
I am sure that we will never know the inside stories. What, for instance, made Brennan do what he did? He, of course, was the brains behind Roe V. Wade. It seems that he was one of the crown who are trying to "modernize" Catholic morality.
20 posted on 09/01/2003 11:20:10 AM PDT by RobbyS
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To: saradippity
Kennedy was permitted to win the election only because he convinced them,he was a new breed of Catholic,in other words not committed.

Are you a conspiracy theorist?

Kennedy "won" the election because his father, old Joe, paid off Mayor Daley in Chicago.

I also am convinced that Reagen was not supposed to live but at least was suffiently scared into a somewhat immobilized position. Ditto,Pope John PaulII,who just became more careful in his proclamations.

Yep. You've bought into the Build-a-Burger nonsense.

22 posted on 09/01/2003 12:12:18 PM PDT by sinkspur (Adopt a dog or a cat from a shelter. You'll save a life, and enrich your own!)
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