[sinkspur]

At the same time, I remain troubled by THE REMNANT, and its offshoots, who continually rail at John Paul II, and every emanation from the Vatican.

There's no dialogue with Michael Matt, so he needs to lash out to get somebody's attention.

I'm not conversant enought with his position to rebut it, but I wonder if a Tridentine Rite would satisfy his objections?

The spiritual needs of Catholics are paramount here, and a separate Rite would free those who favor it from the strictures of local bishops who want to shoehorn everybody into a particular process.

Now, Thorondir, I know you're going to question my motives here, and that's fine.

If we were sitting across from each other, my goal would be to admit that what you want is due you, from the Church, while eliciting from you an admission that this was a good faith effort.

There are no "sides" here. This is The Body of Christ, that we belong to.

[Thorondir]

Now, Thorondir, I know you're going to question my motives here, and that's fine.

No. Not really. Your solution would be fine with me, I think, though I am not certain I know what you are saying. It would be fine for me not to have the twister-players paw at me like chimpanzees during an irreverent gossip-society gathering, where I have to walk out hurt at the end and tell my children to push all of father's wacked-out heresies out of their minds on the way home.

That's all I ask. Is it too much? I just want to be a plain, old, rational, reverent, Catholic rather than a Druid/Gaia/Wiccan/Feminazi/Liberal/Modernist/Beelzebubbian.

Now I know that many NO masses are good and reverent and clean, but the situation is mind-bogglingly out-of-control here in Tuscoddom and Arizomorrah.