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To: sinkspur
I don't agree with your pessimism. You started out OK in your statement but unravelled into the personal comments-questioning the 'genuineness' of traditionalists, etc. If we had parishes that offered only the TLM we would all be happy(including you). We could live parallel spiritual lives and not have to confront each other continuously with our MUTUAL distrust. We would still be united in Christ, just worship differently. Unfortunately, pride on the part of the clerical caste prevents such common sense movement.
21 posted on 08/30/2003 3:14:20 PM PDT by sydney smith
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To: sydney smith
If we had parishes that offered only the TLM we would all be happy(including you). We could live parallel spiritual lives and not have to confront each other continuously with our MUTUAL distrust.

See, syd, I disagree.

You've got bishops like Bruskewitz in Lincoln, who has welcomed the FSSP into his diocese, but still maintains the Novus Ordo according to the GIRM, celebrates the Novus Ordo himself, and things seem to work well there.

OTOH, you've got Mahoney in LA and many others, who would never bring in the FSSP, let alone establish a Tridentine Parish.

So, the bishops cannot be entrusted with this. They won't do it, the balance will never be achieved.

If I were a bishop, I would designate an FSSP parish or two, see how they work, then designate more, if need be. My reasons would be selfish, of course; I'd want to rid myself of the aggravation of the continued complaining from the Tridentine advocates.

But, not every bishop is open to this, and it doesn't appear that the Pope is going to force the issue.

For the vibrancy and unity of the Church, a Tridentine Rite is needed.

If you don't like the name, hell, you can have the name "Latin Rite," and let the Novus Ordo Rite be called the New Order Rite (or something else).

The never-ending wars on FR have convinced me that the Church needs a roadmap to deal with this, resulting in two separate "states," if you will.

And I'll admit it: the reason your solution won't work is because of recalcitrance on the Novus Ordo episcopal side.

25 posted on 08/30/2003 3:27:58 PM PDT by sinkspur (How about rescuing a Bichon Frise? He'll love you forever!!!!)
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To: sydney smith
If we had parishes that offered only the TLM we would all be happy(including you).

I have to side with sinkspur on this one. You're largely right, but there is definitely an element within traditional circles which passionately desires to do away with the Novus Ordo. A Tridentine Rite would not cause them to cease those efforts.

69 posted on 08/30/2003 9:49:32 PM PDT by Snuffington
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