"The quote, if genuine, refers to the true original secret which is approved by the Church (though still not published), and not Melanie's false concoction published in 1878."
The quote has a source and a date. And it's ludicrous and downright perverse to imply that the original, UNPUBLISHED, UNRELEASED account of the apparitions of La Sallette could bring the wrath of the masonic powers to bear upon Melanie Calvet. They wouldn't even know what she said. This quote from the official Vatican Newspaper cannot possibly refer to anything but the 1879 publication. I'm beginning to see exactly what I'm dealing with here.
It is interesting to note that Jesus said that we will be held accountable for every slander and idle word we spew out against others, and that the detractors of Melanie Calvet attempt to prove her prophesy false primarily by attacking her sanity and her character. The references you have shown me do little other than assail the mental stability and character of this visionary, chosen personally by the Mother of God to pass on Her heavenly messages. Which psychiatrist interviewed her, which of the Cardinals who viciously attack her character had known her personally or had even met her?
Throughout the Old Testament the prophets got assailed, calumniated, tortured and murdered by their own, right through John the Baptist. Joan of Arc was burned at the stake by the Church as a heretic, and Saint Padre Pio was forced to remain in his cell for three years, forbidden to say Mass, forbidden to answer any mail, and forbidden to hear any confessions; and he was calumniated by the Vatican Inquisitors as they claimed he made his own wounds and poured nitic acid over them. Padro Pio was also investigated by the Vatican for sexual transgressions and fraud. Certain Vatican officials wanted him destroyed.
There have always been "powers and principalities" that seek to destroy messages from Heaven, and the Vatican has been frequently wrong throughout the ages regarding many visionaries, mystics and Saints. In this particular case you have often referred me to the hearsay and embittered, unproven allegations by certain Church heirarchy regarding Melanie Calvet, and always they attack her character, raging at the prophesies that appear to reveal their own shortcomings and pierce their pride.
All any faithful Catholic believer really need know is that the Marian appartions that occurred at La Sallette to Melanie Calvet are fully Church approved, and that her 1879 brochures detailing in full the messages and secrets carry the Imprimatur of the Bishop of Lecce, allowing us to trust they are free from doctrinal error. That the Vatican decided, more than 35 years after the fact, to place certain of the various La Sallette publications on the proscribed literature list does not even necessarily condemn all that were printed, which were many. There is to this day a great confusion surrounding the 1879 brochure, the original is missing from the archives, the 1846 version remains unpublished, the Index of Prohibited Books and all their eccliastical censures have been abolished, and the original censure stated that the prophesies could not be discussed, and did not forbid them from being read, possessed, or published.
I'm tired of this little debate, nice talking with you though.
Pax Christi
The ecclesiastical censures are abolished, but not the moral censures, which are inherent in the spreading and possession of what is false, malicious, and evil. The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith has reminded Catholics that this is still so:
II. Regarding the circulation of texts of alleged private revelations, the Congregation states:1. The Interpretation given by some individuals to a Decision approved by Paul VI on 14 October 1966 and promulgated on 15 November of that year, in virtue of which writings and messages resulting from alleged revelations could be freely circulated in the Church, is absolutely groundless. This decision actually referred to the "abolition of the Index of Forbidden Books" and determined that --- after the relevant censures were lifted --- the moral obligation still remained of not circulating or reading those writings which endanger faith and morals. (signed , NOTIFICATION ON VASSULA RYDEN, 4 December 1996)
I'm tired of this little debate, nice talking with you though.
Yes, you would be. Solange Hertz is not to be compared to the Magisterium the Church. And you remain in your sins and estranged from the Sacraments. The text of the 1915 Decree is perfectly clear. The dissemination of the 1879 so-called Secret of LaSalette is forbidden on pain of interdict, and you are busily spreading this so-called Secret here in violation of a valid disciplinary decree that you are well aware of the contents of.
Be careful while you are running away with your head between your legs. You cannot see where you are going and can fall into the snares of the Evil One.
A simple demand - Obey Holy Church.
Is L'Osservatore Romano really published on a Holy Day of Obligation?
What page is the quote from? What column?
Its not a real citation - just an assertion.