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To: boromeo; NYer; Salvation; Hermann the Cherusker; As you well know...; Patrick Madrid
** When will you remove the "gay" priests and bishops from active ministry? Research has indicated that the priesthood in the U.S.A. is anywhere from 20% to 50% gay.  In 1961 the Vatican sent out a mandate that stated "...Advancement to religious vows and ordination should be barred to those who are afflicted with evil tendencies to homosexuality or pederasty, since for them the common life and the priestly ministry would constitute serious dangers."  The implementation of this is long overdue.  When will we, the People of God, see action from our Shepherds?

** When will you enforce "Ex Corde Ecclesiae" and remove the heretics from Catholic Higher Education or remove their Catholic identity? The first essential element of Catholic identity that you state in "Ex Corde Ecclesiae, The Application to the United States" as a group of bishops, is a "commitment to be faithful to the teachings of the Catholic Church". Yet the rest of the document is full of churchspeak and is SO ambiguous as to let all the heterodox off the hook in the name of being pastoral as seen under your section VI ..."Continuing Dialogue Among University Representatives and Church Authorities"  Dialog ended a long time ago.  When are you shepherds going to put some meaningful and result driven action into your declaration?

** When will the "Oath Against Modernism" be re-instituted? To be sworn to by all clergy, pastors, confessors, preachers, religious superiors, and professors in philosophical-theological seminaries...and I would add Bishops.

** Politicians that call themselves Catholic yet denigrate the Church's perennial teachings on subjects such as abortion and homosexuality and contraception are a scandal to the faith and cause for many to lose their souls.  Their persistence in their errors is a mark of heresy.  When will the bishops get some intestinal fortitude to publicly excommunicate these men and women who are already, "latae sententiae", excommunicated? I've been taught that excommunication is the last ditch, charitable effort to bring a lost soul back into the fold. When a local Catholic politician DENIGRATES the Church, as in the recent case of Patrick Kennedy; when will the local ordinary take him to TASK: REALLY to TASK?!  Chastisements shouldn't be relegated only to the weak and unimportant (as in the five women who were invalidly ordained and excommunicated.  They deserved it, but they caused far less scandal and harm than the likes of the Kennedys, Jack Reed, Tom Daschle, and well, you get my drift) but moreso to the highly public figures who influence culture in many ways.

** Adult catechesis is one of the most neglected ministries in the Catholic Church in America.  And when it is available, often times it is heterodox teaching full of modernist errors.  We as a Church, abandoned sound moral teaching when our semninaries embraced William of Occam and casuistry as well as contemporary philosophy which underlies the errors of proportionalism and consequentialism. When are the bishops going to reign in the insanity that exists in both the formation of our deacons, priests and bishops as well as our adult lay population and bring back sound doctrine (Thomism) and theology to our seminaries and pulpits?

** When will the bishops end the liturgical non-sense in their diocese? Many Catholics are being lead astray by heterodox clergy who think they can re-invent the Liturgy every time they celebrate it. One bishop I know made unannounced visits to parishes to critique the liturgy being offered to the laity.  All too often we are hearing of liturgical abuses to the point of invalid Eucharists.  When will the Bishops enforce the very easy mandate of "DO THE RED AND READ THE BLACK. PERIOD!"

** Many parishes deny the faithful Eucharistic Adoration.  When will REAL CATHOLIC norms be brought back into parish life?

** When will heterodoxy in the clergy be dealt with SEVERELY? There are wolves amongst the sheep and many souls have been lead astray.

** When will the Bishops regulate liturgical music.  The OCP is out of control.  Theologically heretical music is interlaced into the music issues.  Why hasn't there been ANY control over SACRED MUSIC.

** SACRED ART has been abandoned to "pop" art.  To name the new LA monstrosity a most prominent Cathedral in the Church would be laughable if it wasn't so sad.  Wreck-o-vators have been slowly destroying Catholic Architecture and replacing it with "ugly as sin" theaters.  When will the Bishops put their foot down and say NO?!

** A REFORM to Orthodoxy in doctrine and liturgy is in dire need.  Clergy sexual abuse is bad enough; but it pales in light of the theological and liturgical abuse that has plagued the Church for many many decades.  When will our bishops start protecting us from these wolves?  When will our shepherds reign in the perpetrators of error for the safety of the flock and the SALVATION OF SOULS!

77 posted on 08/26/2003 9:03:44 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Pax et bonum!)
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To: ThomasMore; All
All of your excellent questions can probably be summed up in just one.

When will you enforce the GIRM and the documents issued by the USCCB?

What will it take and how can we help?

78 posted on 08/26/2003 10:47:54 AM PDT by NYer (Laudate Dominum)
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To: ThomasMore
The answer to each of those questions is "when we have change in the Hierarchy."
83 posted on 08/26/2003 12:42:52 PM PDT by As you well know...
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