[ninenot]

charismatic, opus dei, influence

First time I have EVER heard that the Opies and the Charos are the same.

Have you checked with either group?

[Smocker]

I did not refer to the groups as opies or charos. That is not keeping any discussion on a civil level. Please don't add disrespect to the subject.
I was using a comma in the sentence to separate the different groups, I was not thinking of them as being one and the same, although, there may be here or there, individuals who are members of both types of group.
No implying here either.