[RussianConservative]

Nowhere in New Testament scripture are we given any hope for those who die outside of Christ

So you accept Jews are damned? I not say this in racism of Jews I'm just puzzled by schizophrenic protestant view...all peoples without explicit prayer in Christ damned, well all except Jews...why? By your views they should all be damned.

[Guyin4Os]

So you accept Jews are damned?

Yes, those who reject the provision the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob for their sins, the Blood of Christ. But to those who accept Him, he will give the right to be children of God, even to those who believe in His name.

Saint Paul does teach in Romans that all Jews who happen to be alive when the Savior returns will indeed accept Him and thus be saved. But once more, FAITH in CHRIST is what is necessary.

[Cvengr]

Some confusion may exist here.

Jesus Christ, the person as the Son of God, is known by at least 650 names throughout Scripture.

The crimson thread of redemption is strung throughout evey book of Scripture.

The Father, the Son and the Spirit all performed different functions in the Plan of God.

We are saved by that great impersonal love of God, wherein a New Covenant was sealed by the blood of Jesus Christ.

God created man perfect in the Garden of Eden and upon the Fall, the penalty of sin was death or a separation from God.

Man is body, soul and spirit, but man's spirit was separated from God in the Garden. There was no Perfect Sacrifice available to man to re-enter into a spiritual relationship with God in righteousness until the incarnation of God in the Son known to us as Jesus Christ.

The sacrifice of Christ provided an atonement for all sin. Yet by any man's acceptance of the sacrifice through faith in Him, God's justice is shown to be righteous. The reason why faith is the issue is that faith is a non-meritorious act of volition on the part of the believer which honors the Son and thereby places man in position to receive an efficacious grace by the Holy Spirit. The sin was judged on the cross by the Father. The Son performed the Sacrifice and it was sealed as His blood, and the Holy Spirit allows a common grace to hear the Gospel and an efficiacious grace to make that faith effective for salvation in the believer.

It might be noted that until one is a believer, they are born merely in body and soul, dead in the spirit. Just as there is a bodily life, a soulish conscience and life, and a living Spirit, so in man prior to believing, we are soulish brutes. Alive in flesh and soul, but if we do not believe, we remain dead (separated from God the Spirit) in our trespasses and sins, or in a state of separation from God.

Death is not a case of non-existence. It is merely a state of separation. If we die in the body biologically, the soul and spirit depart the body.

Prior to the Cross, those who died still had no redeemer to allow them entrance to heaven. They were placed as believers in Abraham's bosom or as unbelievers in the Torments. Upon Jesus Christ's crucifixtion, He passed His Spirit to the Father, His soul departed to Hades, but when judged He had no unrighteousness in Him. Christ therefore conquered death, His soul returned to His body, and God returning His Spirit to Him displayed the Resurrection.

After a period, He also ascended to be placed on the right hand of God the Father.

If man today fails to accept faith in Jesus Christ, then that lack of faith simply leaves him in that state of spiritual separation from God. Such a man stands onvicted already since the original sin of Adam resulted in the separation of the spirit from God. If we die biologically, our soul departs the body, is then placed in the Torments.

It stands for man to die once (biological bodily death) and then for the judgment.

Note that Jesus Christ was judged on the Cross for the sins of all mankind. He was the Perfect Sacrifice, body, soul and spirit as a man. So sin has already been judged. Forgiveness comes at the point of salvation whereby through faith we have positional righteousness with God.

The believers' names are in the Book of Life, and then the Book of Works will be opened, and those without faith in Christ will have their works judged for righteousness. Where the work fails to have been performed while righteous in the eyes of God, the work lacks positive righteousness and is considered worthless if not good for nothing to be cast out and burnt.

The consequence for the sinner who rejects the substitutionary atonement for sin by Jesus Christ, means that person lacks divine righteousness and even if he has many human good works, still lacks divine good work and will be cast off as good for nothing.

If one is called by the Father and rejects Christ, then damnation is a natural consequence. Placing faith in the Son, allows God through the Holy Spirit to effect salvation.

Considering all things were created by Him, there is nothing in environment which fails to provide testimony of Him. We are fortunate today to not only have the same creation about us which testifies to Him, but also the Gospel record of His incarnation to directly communicate these things.