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To: RussianConservative
So jews condemned? They choosen peoples of God but they not accept Christ. What about hermit in Hemalias who never heard of Christ or hundred millions of past who never heard of Christ...were they born to be condemned since God knew they would never hear Word?

By way, if you answer yes to these questions how you say God is Just then?


I have no need to sit in judgment of God's mercy or justice. No child of God should need to.

I am content in knowing that I know enough but that I do not know everything about His ways or His justice. It is enough to have been granted His grace through Christ.

I'll leave it to others to judge God's justice and mercy and to say that the plain meaning of scripture doesn't really mean what it so plainly says over and over and over...
29 posted on 08/21/2003 12:06:06 PM PDT by George W. Bush
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I'll leave it to others to judge God's justice and mercy

And all the EO church does is leave plenty of room for God to do as He will, while confessing at the same time that we humans are too weak and lacking in knowledge to comprehend the love and mercy God has for us all.

Too much Augustine contamination in western Christianity has given you a much too bleak outlook for God's children.
Scripture says quite plainly "God is love". Where else does it say what God *is*, in the Bible? Just curious.

43 posted on 08/21/2003 9:56:40 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: George W. Bush
and to say that the plain meaning of scripture doesn't really mean what it so plainly says over and over and over...

I'm hoping to pick on you some here. :-)

"the greatest virtue is love" (I Corinthians 13:13)

Love is the "fulfilling of the law" of God. (Romans 13:10)

"Beloved, let us love one another; for love is of God, and he who loves is born of God and knows God.

He who does not love does not know God; for God is love...."

"No man has ever seen God; if we love one another, God abides in us and His love is perfected in us".

"There is no fear in love, but perfect love casts out fear. For fear has to do with punishment, and he who fears is not perfected in love."
(I John 4:7-19)

"If I speak in the tongues of men and of angels, but have not love, I am a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. And if I have prophetic powers, and understand all mysteries and all knowledge, and if I have all faith, so as to remove mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. If I give away all I have, and if I deliver my body to be burned, but have not love, I gain nothing."

"Love bears all things, believes all things, hopes all things, endures all things."

The EO church follows Holy Scripture because in our pursuit of love, we believe and hope all things, even that those who have not yet heard of Christ can be saved. Not those who have rejected Christ, perhaps, or those who are evil, but those who were not given a chance or were led astray without the Grace to overcome their straying.

"Now I know in part; then I shall understand fully, even as I have been fully understood. So faith, hope, love abide, these three; but the greatest of these is love."

46 posted on 08/21/2003 10:22:41 PM PDT by MarMema
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