[Cvengr]

I agree with your concern.

I understand the grace of God to grant us efficacious grace and a common grace, but primarily as a gift for us before we have received salvation. A mechanism to 'kick start' our acceptance of things eternal.

The additional meaning,...for example if one asserts that even after salvation, acceptance of Christ, that any and all thoughts and decisions are only by His mandate, then I can understand that theology to fail in regards to glorifying Him and studies of angels.

[RnMomof7]

I understand the grace of God to grant us efficacious grace and a common grace, but primarily as a gift for us before we have received salvation. A mechanism to 'kick start' our acceptance of things eternal.

Does every one get the same kick?

BTW I too believe salvation is initiated by Gods grace