[CCWoody]

Let's consider allowing the Arminians to address that. ~ CS

Actually locke did do exactly that. I have read the Snod of Dordt. I have read the Arminian statements themselves without any edits. Locke is exactly correct with his cite.

The Arminians were:
• Very Pelagianesque, so much so, the Snod actually called their belief the "Hell of Pelagianism."
• Middle Knowledge hereics, as admitted by the Arminians themselves.
• Denied the Penal Substitution Atonement in favor of something akin to the Grotius heresy called the Governemtal view.

You can moan and groan all you want; you can post to us the writing of neo-Arminians who are embarrassed with their past (some of whom are still Governmental view heritics attempting to hide their heresy with correct sounding terminology) and it will not change these historic facts. The Arminians themselves stated these things and the Snod of Dordt responded to the Arminian statements.

You are free to read them for yourselves. I have and I know the truth of the matter.

Woody.

[Corin Stormhands]

I read and posted the Wesleyan-Arminians Woody. As usual, you're full of Snod.

[drstevej]

How come our freeper Arminians don't laud their evangelistic crusade pioneer, Charles Grandison Finney [another Arminian who didn't care for penal substitution]?

And he was an attorney to boot.