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To: Dr. Eckleburg
"Fallen" equals "depraved," only "depraved" sounds so much more licentious and Hannibal Lechter-ish.

That man is depraved is not really debatable however the word 'Total' is conspicuous by its absence in your statement.

254 posted on 08/16/2003 1:16:39 PM PDT by connectthedots
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To: connectthedots
I view "fallen" and "depraved" as absolutes. "Total" is implied by definition. Kinda like "pregnant."

A woman is either pregnant, or not.

A human being is either fallen, depraved and incapable of saving himself, or he's not. In which case, he's God, which he's definitely not.

305 posted on 08/16/2003 6:55:24 PM PDT by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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