[k omalley]

"The archdiocese of Los Angeles, for example, ordains a large number of men every year, despite Cardinal Mahoney."

Do you have the stats on that statement? My understanding was that the number of priets ordained in that diocese was pathetic.

[k omalley]

priets=priests :>0

[saradippity]

I thought that the Los Angeles ordinations were pretty pathetic and was surprised to hear them described as healthy.

I went to their website and found it difficult to find but did find the Cardinal's speech at the ordination in January of 2002. At that time they ordained 3 priests. The cardinal said then that there would be no more ordinations until June,2003 when they would be ordaining five.

I believe one or two of the anticipated ordinands dropped out but I am not positive.Even if all of them were ordained that would be a grand total of eight over 1 and a half years,pitiful from a diocese of 4,000,000.

I also know that they closed their diocesan seminary due to lack of candidates. This again demonstrates that the liberal dioceses are bleeding.I think Rockford ordained 8 or 10 this June.Even Phoenix with one tenth of the Catholic population of L.A. ordained 6 or 7 over a one year period.