Calvinism- False Doctrines of the "Pope" of Geneva

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[Dr. Eckleburg]

and he tried to betray Calvin to the catholics...

Bingo. This was the motivation behind the entire Arminian movement.

The Romanists supported and even financed the Remonstrants in order to undermine the Reformation.

Without that piece of knowledge, history looks arbitrary.

But history is never arbitrary. Especially political/economic history which is what really motivated the Arminians.

[f.Christian]

"Religion is fashionable in our age. But is it that which sprang up, after centuries of darkness, among our fathers in Europe? Is it that of apostles and prophets? Is it the calm yet thorough religion which did such great deeds in other days? Has it gone deep into the conscience? Has it filled the heart? Has it pervaded the man? Or has it left the conscience unpacified, the heart unfilled, the man unchanged, save with some external appliances of religiousness, which leaves him hollow as before? There is at this moment many an aching spirit, bitterly conscious of this hollowness. The doctrine, the profession, the good report of others, the bustle of work, will not fill the soul. God Himself must be there, with His covering righteousness, His cleansing blood, His quickening Spirit."

Without ... this --- religion is but a shell: holy services are dull and irksome."

"Joy in God, which is the soul and essence of worship, is unknown. Sacraments, prayer-meetings, religious services, labours of charity, will not make up for the living God."

"How much of unreality there may be in the religious life of our age, it is for each individual to determine for himself, that he may not be deceived nor lose his reward."(1)

"All unreality is weakness as well as irksomeness; and the sooner that we are ... stripped of unreality --- the better, both for peace and for usefulness."

[carton253]

Moses murdered an Egyptian who was beating a Hebrew. The next day, Moses came upon two Hebrews fighting, and he tried to stop them. One of them asked Moses if he planned to murder him like Moses did the Egyptian.

Moses thought his murder was known. He fled into the desert, met Jethro and his daughters, tended Jethro's flock and came upon a burning bush in the desert.

The rest is history... (Exodus 2)

[nobdysfool]

and he tried to betray Calvin to the catholics... Bingo. This was the motivation behind the entire Arminian movement. The Romanists supported and even financed the Remonstrants in order to undermine the Reformation.

Interesting, and quite telling. It has always seemed to me that Arminianism was more about opposing Calvin than it was about proclaiming Truth. There is a semi-Pelagian element in the Arminain insistence on free will and man's so-called ability to choose in favor of God apart from God's Grace that isn't even logical, let alone scriptural. Knowing that the Romanists were behind Arminianism casts the whole doctrinal system into suspicion.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

And it explains the symbiosis between Arminianism and Catholicism.

They both march to the beat of the almighty "FREE WILL."

From the beginning of creation, same as it ever was.

[RnMomof7]

Okay, you got me on that one. I can't remember a murder committed by Moses.

He killed the Egyptian before he fled into the desert for 40 years

[RnMomof7]

Interesting, and quite telling. It has always seemed to me that Arminianism was more about opposing Calvin than it was about proclaiming Truth. There is a semi-Pelagian element in the Arminain insistence on free will and man's so-called ability to choose in favor of God apart from God's Grace that isn't even logical, let alone scriptural. Knowing that the Romanists were behind Arminianism casts the whole doctrinal system into suspicion

The Protestants were "protesting" Rome and the theology of Rome.The Arminians were "protesting" the protestants..it took me a while to figure out that most non Catholic churches are NOT Protestants(in spite of calling themself such)

[nobdysfool]

it took me a while to figure out that most non Catholic churches are NOT Protestants(in spite of calling themself such)

Good point...at least the majority of Baptists are honest about it. They disclaim being Protestant.

[Alex Murphy]

Do you serve white or red wine with barbequed poofster?

Neither is appropriate. I believe a rosé wine is called for in this instance.

[nobdysfool]

If this were a piece written to denounce George W. Bush, Ronald Reagan, or Abraham Lincoln, it would be called what it is: Yellow Journalism. This is absolute trash, bird-cage liner, and garbage. You do not even know the history of your own opposing belief, and how it was the Romanists who were behind the Arminians.

If you want the truth about Calvin, you don't go to an obvious opponent of his teachings and expect to get a fair and balanced piece.

When one follows false doctrines, one trait similar to drunkeness occurs. The first thing to be impaired by imbibing alcohol is the ability to recognize one is impaired.

I know you meant that to be pointed at Calvinists, but it works just as well when pointed to Arminians....in fact, I'd say even better!

Similarly, whenever some extreme reports are made about a system which seems rightoeus, one might consider that those following that system might have fallen off the righteous track somewhere and perhaps rather extremely.

No, the proper response is to research more carefully, not jump to conclusions. Take the beam out of your own eye before trying to remove the speck from your brother's....or did you forget that?

[Frumanchu]

"This...isn't...reality. This is Revelation...911."

[newgeezer]

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(from the article) One must first study the man, John Calvin

I'm glad the author started it this way. That puts the whole thing in the correct "Dave Hunt" sort of light, doncha think? ;O)

[irishtenor]

It is history bent to sway opinion, such as, "The agressive Americans viciously slaughtered thousands of Japanese civilians when they violently dropped the Atomic Bomb on these innocent victims".

[Wrigley]

You are correct sir.

History reported in a way to inflame.

[irishtenor]

I am doing this at work, no books available. Sorry.

[irishtenor]

He killed an Egyptian guard who was beating the Hebrews, thus he was sent into exile. What? You never watched the "Ten Commandments"? Moses looks exactly like Charleton Heston.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

...but by that measure we should be hold weekly bbq's down at the Espiscopal church headquarters

We've missed you Rev! Tell you what, i'll supply the stakes (not steaks!!), wood and rope, can you bring the Marshmellows and hotdogs? BTW, should i use kerosine or charcoal starter?

[biblewonk]

People sure take there "believe my way or you are blaspheming" stuff too far.

[Codie]

It was never suppose to be this way.

[snerkel]

I suspect many Believers come to Christ through the reading of the Scripture and the guidance of the Holy Spirit.

Is it not true that before a group can be viewed as a Christian cult, they must be shown to pervert the Gospel and biblical doctrines that effect salvation sufficiently so as to void salvation?

There are three essential doctrines that are inspected when determining whether a group is Christian or a Christian cult: (1) the Deity of Christ, which involves the Trinity; (2) the physical death and resurrection; and (3) salvation by Grace alone. Can you show where Calvinists depart from these doctrines?