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To: Canticle_of_Deborah
It's really time you took a look inward rather than blaming women for the problems of the entire world.

I'm afraid you have it backwards. King David took responsibility for his sin. He blamed himself fully and did penance. But what about Bathsheba whose immodesty started the trouble? How often do women take responsibility for their sins?

Let's look at the biggest example staring us in the face today: the murder of tens of millions of unborn babies. Every one of those unborn children are murdered by his or her own mother, the one person in the whole world who has the greatest obligation to love and to cherish and to protect that child. Yet I hear talk about how "every abortion has 2 victims, the mother and the baby." Sorry, every abortion has 1 victim, the child, and 1 murderer, the mother. When are women going to take responsibility?

You can and are only meant to control yourself, not the entire female gender. The sooner you come to terms with this the better off you will be.

That's just not true. I have responsibility for my wife and my daughters. That is the point of the original article. God has placed upon me the authority of leading them to heaven and preventing them from going astray into paths that lead to hell.

64 posted on 08/01/2003 9:59:11 PM PDT by Maximilian
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To: Maximilian
But what about Bathsheba whose immodesty started the trouble?

She was taking a bath and King David decided to peek.....hellooooooo? So women should bathe with their clothes on? Go back and read the Scripture.

Your wife is not a child, she is an adult. She is responsible for herself. When your daughters become adults they will be responsible for themselves. You overreach. When they die they will give their own accounts of their decisions and their lives. Your opinion won't count.

65 posted on 08/01/2003 10:11:00 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Maximilian
When are women going to take responsibility?

I have responsibility for my wife and my daughters. That is the point of the original article. God has placed upon me the authority of leading them to heaven and preventing them from going astray into paths that lead to hell.

You just answered your own question here.

66 posted on 08/01/2003 10:12:44 PM PDT by Canticle_of_Deborah
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To: Maximilian
Uh, let's see Bathseeba's 'immodesity' led to David setting up the death of her husband Uriah the Hittite. According to scripture 2 Sam 11Verse 2 states "One evening David rose from his siesta and strolled on the roof of the palace. from the roof he saw a woman bathing and she was very beautiful." Seems more like the royal peeping tom initially violated Bathseeba's privacy and from this event rather than her 'immodesty' there grew the relationship that would in time nearly destroy David's kingdom. Certainly Bathseeba bears the responsibility for being complicit in adultry (although saying 'no' to a middle eastern despot is not like brushing off the water cooler lothrio at work) but Daivid's roving eye and determination to geet what he wanted and use whatever means necessary is the crux of this sorry tale which is really more about the abuse of power and its consequences than sexual immorality.
76 posted on 08/04/2003 5:17:53 AM PDT by robowombat
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