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In reference to these debates, one should always ask which version of "the Spirit of Vatican II" is the person talking about. Are we talking about the Bernardin-Weakland version of the "Spirit of Vatican II" with New Agey music and wreckovation architecture? Are we talking about the Liberation Theology social(-ist) justice model of the new liberal Jesuits? Is it the Frances Kissling model? The Commonweal model? Is it the charismatic model? How is it exactly that the U.S. bishops have clarified these other models from the Joseph Fessio/Adoremus/EWTN model and those proposed by the Catholics United for the Faith? Or have they? How do you explain to the pastor or "music ministry" mafia at your parish that the Sesame Street musical chairs version of "the Spirit of Vatican II" they are following is a wrong interpretation? The bishop here isn't doing that. How would any Catholic be able to figure this out if the bishop does not clarify which ones active in the diocese are WRONG? Do we assume then that they are all right? How could that be possible?