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To: ultima ratio
Okay... so, you don't think Vatican II an Ecumenical Council... under your definition it can't be... because Ecumenical Council are error free...

I am correct with you thinking so far?

I am trying to find where we have common ground if that is okay.
187 posted on 08/01/2003 8:49:54 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius (How can there be too many children? That's like saying there are too many flowers - Mother Theresa)
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To: Saint Athanasius
BTW, congratulations to you and your bride on the birth of your baby.

You can spend some of the sleepless nights here, as you feed and rock your little one.

Aren't kids fun?

189 posted on 08/01/2003 8:52:58 PM PDT by sinkspur ("Boy, watch that knife!'" Rev. Capt. Samuel Johnston Clayton in "The Searchers")
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To: Saint Athanasius
Who says ecumenical councils are error free? Some ecumenical councils make official declarations, some do not. Only definitive declarations are subject to divine protection--and Vatican II made none. But even those councils which make official declarations are guaranteed divine protection only for what is officially declared as binding. All the rest can theoretically be full of errors.
209 posted on 08/01/2003 9:21:10 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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