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To: ultima ratio
Did you read the article?

No...

Let us start off with a simple question

Are there any errors in the Council? No! Agree or Disagree?

I am not talking preference... aka Tridentine vs. NO...

I am asking about errors... are there any?
183 posted on 08/01/2003 8:39:36 PM PDT by Saint Athanasius (How can there be too many children? That's like saying there are too many flowers - Mother Theresa)
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To: Saint Athanasius
Yes.
184 posted on 08/01/2003 8:40:26 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Saint Athanasius
The Council stated the Church of Christ "subsists in" the Catholic Church, thus establishing that the two are separate. The Catholic Church has always claimed it IS the Church Christ founded, thus establishing they are one and the same. These two concepts are irreconcilable.
186 posted on 08/01/2003 8:45:57 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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To: Saint Athanasius
By the way, I had read the article before you posted it. I mention the "subsists in" of Lumen Gentium as an example of a teaching that is in conflict with traditional doctrine about the Church's identity.
190 posted on 08/01/2003 8:55:04 PM PDT by ultima ratio
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