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To: P-Marlowe; Dr. Eckleburg
"I was not implying that God has attributes of being able to travel through time like an object."

Then you were not clear in your speculations.

"I was stating that since objects can travel backwards through time, God would necessarily have to exist in the past as well as the future."

This is still rank speculation. You really have no idea just what it means for God to follow the existance of the particle as it travels back into the past.

The particle itself still exists and is still aging even though it might travel into what is, from our perspective, the "past". In other words, the object doesn't reach a point where it becomes "negative" in it's age. If that particle had a stopwatch on him, the stop watch would continue to keep regular time and the particle would not notice any speeding up or slowing down of "time".

This is why your utilizing your naturalistic philosophical speculations as a hermeneutical tool is not wise at all.

You are really just guessing at all of this and using your best hunch as a way to keep your beloved "Free-Will" philosophical paradigm in tact.

"Do you doubt that God exists in all times and all places and all dimensions? Is there anywhere that God is not?"

I have no doubt that God exists or has existed in all times, places and dimensions, but neither I nor you know what that means. In fact, we cannot even begin to describe how an "timeless" Being relates to the time that it has created without the use of words bound in chronology or defined with words relating to "time". That is the nature we have being finite creatures bound to time.

Jean

376 posted on 12/06/2003 7:23:02 AM PST by Jean Chauvin (Sola Scriptura---Sola Fida---Sola Gracia---Sola Christus---Soli Deo Gloria)
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To: Jean Chauvin
In fact, we cannot even begin to describe how an "timeless" Being relates to the time that it has created without the use of words bound in chronology or defined with words relating to "time".

But God doesn't have that problem, does he?

378 posted on 12/06/2003 7:33:29 AM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: Jean Chauvin; P-Marlowe
"I was stating that since objects can travel backwards through time, God would necessarily have to exist in the past as well as the future."

This is still rank speculation. You really have no idea just what it means for God to follow the existance of the particle as it travels back into the past.

1. A particle/object that can travel backward in time IS at that location and at that time.

2. God has created the universe so the physical laws make that time/location possible.....in other words, it is a fair description of the physical reality which God has created.

3. If that particle exists at that time/location, then Almighty God has power over it.

4. That power over it COULD include the power to be in the same location OR in a location wherein He could exercise oversight of that time/location.

Those all seem valid to me.

Additionally, it is NOT an unfair application of the biblical truth that "God inhabits eternity."

381 posted on 12/06/2003 8:25:07 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Jean Chauvin; P-Marlowe
"I was stating that since objects can travel backwards through time, God would necessarily have to exist in the past as well as the future."

This is still rank speculation. You really have no idea just what it means for God to follow the existance of the particle as it travels back into the past.

1. A particle/object that can travel backward in time IS at that location and at that time.

2. God has created the universe so the physical laws make that time/location possible.....in other words, it is a fair description of the physical reality which God has created.

3. If that particle exists at that time/location, then Almighty God has power over it.

4. That power over it COULD include the power to be in the same location OR in a location wherein He could exercise oversight of that time/location.

Those all seem valid to me.

Additionally, it is NOT an unfair application of the biblical truth that "God inhabits eternity."

382 posted on 12/06/2003 8:29:04 AM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Jean Chauvin; P-Marlowe; xzins; OrthodoxPresbyterian; Frumanchu; Aggressive Calvinist; RnMomof7; ...
Good post. The idea that "time" slows down for a particle as it's velocity increases is the time-traveling science fiction of "2001" when Keir Dullea meets himself as a baby.

But this is absurd conjecture. It is only from a fixed point in time and space that this might possibly occur.

AND GOD IS NOT A FIXED POINT.

399 posted on 12/06/2003 1:31:52 PM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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