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To: P-Marlowe; Jean Chauvin; xzins; RnMomof7; OrthodoxPresbyterian
All this "post-Newtonian/Eisteinian/Wisenheimer/Michaeleisner" speculation is pseudo-intellectual diversion.

Calvinists actually do understand what you're talking about. Most of us had these discussions in junior high.

And although you protest, your postulate is exactly like God creating a rock too big for Him to lift. So what? It's simply a word-game trying to get around God's authority.

The over-arching truth of all existence is that God, whether He inhabits past, present, future or a bunny suit, is aware of and omnipresent over every nano-second we live because it is ALL His creation, according to His will, as He determines because it pleasures Him and brings glory to His name.

You fail to see that all your posturings come down to you wanting to effect God's plan. You want Him to respond to you. It's an understandable mistake; Eve made it, too. And so you want the concept of time to bend to your will; to make time mallable in your hands so that God can actually change time and events according to your actions.

While time may well bend, it does so as God instructs. And that instruction has been known to God from before time.

Bottom line -- God knows your questions. He gave them to you. He watches as you struggle with them, and I pray He gives you insight.

302 posted on 12/05/2003 9:56:57 AM PST by Dr. Eckleburg (There are very few shades of gray.)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
God, whether He inhabits past, present, future or a bunny suit

The point is that the Bible Says that God inhabits eternity.

It doesn't say He inhabits a bunny suit.

(except at easter, of course.) :>)

321 posted on 12/05/2003 1:15:08 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg; P-Marlowe; Hermann the Cherusker
And so you want the concept of time to bend to your will; to make time mallable in your hands so that God can actually change time and events according to your actions.

Not true.

I'd say for myself that I'm looking for a better explanation of whether prayer changes things or not.

I'm not satisfied with the Calvinist or classical Arminian responses on that. They seem weak to me in that they're static.

The passages on answered prayer seem to be more active. My humble opinion, of course.

323 posted on 12/05/2003 1:18:51 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: Dr. Eckleburg
All this "post-Newtonian/Eisteinian/Wisenheimer/Michaeleisner" speculation is pseudo-intellectual diversion

No, it is cultic thinking. Finding "mysteries" that have been "hidden" from the wise and holy scholars and church fathers

You can take the man out of the cult..but not the cultic thinking out of the man .

The problem with this is he is drawing others into this 'speculation" . (Now where have we heard this before?)

386 posted on 12/06/2003 9:11:55 AM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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