[Cvengr]

The doctrines developed by Calvinism to insist man is unable to exercise anything of faith in his unregenerate state add considerable meaning by reading into Scripture a doctrine to elevate a Calvinist religion.

I understand the following. The Father makes the call. In other cases the drawing unto Christ is by the Father. Election is of the Father's Soverignty as is predestination.

I find the Total Depravity doctrine to be forced into more than is given in Scripture to the point of promoting a false religion than remaining in fellowship with God. I also find it to discourage the fulfillment of the Great Commission and encourage substitution of Satan for God as the person being recognized in salvation.

I also find it ironic that supposed Calvinists would endorse 'Total Depravity' of unregenerate man and concurrently find it wholesome and righteous to 'invite' Christ into the unregenerate heart, especially when they take offense to their reasoning being considered.

Then again I don't expect those who allow themselves to be so continually blinded to make sense of such a comment. I have no doubt though that no matter how constructive a criticism they will take offense as pearls unto swine.


With respect to faith, I've found it much simpler than the choice to remain a slave to sin. The work of salvation is still all attributed to God, without forcing more demands upon salvation than simple faith.

[RnMomof7]

I also find it ironic that supposed Calvinists would endorse 'Total Depravity' of unregenerate man and concurrently find it wholesome and righteous to 'invite' Christ into the unregenerate heart, especially when they take offense to their reasoning being considered.

The unregenerate heart will never repent and believe. You are simply showing that you do not understand Calvinism

Could you show me the scripture that tells men to invite Jesus into their heart?

[RnMomof7]

With respect to faith, I've found it much simpler than the choice to remain a slave to sin. The work of salvation is still all attributed to God, without forcing more demands upon salvation than simple faith.

How nice that you give God some credit , I am sure he is happy