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To: xzins
It seems that some people are constrained to insist that God does not make any decisions NOW. That all decisions were made BACK THEN.

But what needs to be realized is that if God inhabits eternity, then any decision that God makes NOW, he literally and actually made even before the foundation of the earth, because he is there NOW.

Thefore God can interact with us in time (now), while at the same time maintaining his eternal immutability and behold he changes not. Nothing has changed, even from the foundation of the earth.

218 posted on 12/02/2003 4:53:40 PM PST by P-Marlowe
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To: P-Marlowe
God can make decisions!

Awesome thought!

219 posted on 12/02/2003 5:34:43 PM PST by xzins (Proud to be Army!)
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To: xzins
It seems that some people are constrained to insist that God does not make any decisions NOW. That all decisions were made BACK THEN.

Way back then

Jhn 17:24 Father, I will that they also, whom thou hast given me, be with me where I am; that they may behold my glory, which thou hast given me: for thou lovedst me before the foundation of the world.

Eph 1:4 According as, he hath chosen us in him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy and without blame before him in love:

Eph 3:9   And to make all [men] see what [is] the fellowship of the mystery, which from the beginning of the world hath been hid in God, who created all things by Jesus Christ:

Act 15:18   Known unto God are all his works from the beginning of the world.

Act 17:26   And hath made of one blood all nations of men for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath determined the times before appointed, and the bounds of their habitation;

Isa 44:7   And who, as I, shall call, and shall declare it, and set it in order for me, since I appointed the ancient people? and the things that are coming, and shall come, let them shew unto them.

Mal 3:6   For I [am] the LORD, I change not; therefore ye sons of Jacob are not consumed.

Tts 1:2   In hope of eternal life, which God, that cannot lie, promised before the world began;

Either God did indeed work within time for creation or the Bible is false

But what needs to be realized is that if God inhabits eternity, then any decision that God makes NOW, he literally and actually made even before the foundation of the earth, because he is there NOW.

Sounds a bit like " speculation "to me. There are people ,

History is written or prophecy is a lie.

This is meaningless speculation and nothing more than an excuse to deny God His sovereignty.

We can not rewrite the word of God to mean what we want to believe or to dodge the truth God ordained Christ BEFORE the foundation of the world or not

If he did indeed ordain Christ before the foundation of the earth for the sin of men not yet created..He also had to create the means of His lineage, birth , and the cross. He had to know those for whom the savior would dire . He had the power and ability at that moment to do all things including planning and executing His plan .

Show me the scripture that supports your speculation .

Otherwise give up Steve and admit what you already know in your heart.

In that bedroom that many years ago the irresistible Grace of God drew you with cords of love and kindness...and all you wanted was Him . It was not forced it was welcome.

Psa 65:4   Blessed [is the man whom] thou choosest, and causest to approach [unto thee, that] he may dwell in thy courts: we shall be satisfied with the goodness of thy house, [even] of thy holy temple.

238 posted on 12/03/2003 9:10:09 PM PST by RnMomof7 (Deut7:7)
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