[sinkspur]

If they're trying to fix something, they should fix it by making sure there's always Eucharist for people, and that's about ordination.

Instead of addressing the issue of priestless parishes, bishops think it's important to "tinker" with things like bowing and telling them not to talk in church before Mass, as if they were children.

We've implemented the GIRM in our diocese, and, honestly, these two items were never discussed. The biggest things I've noticed are the EMs no longer fill the cups prior to distribution (done only by priest or deacon), kneeling after the Lamb of God, and no one leaves the sanctuary during the Sign of Peace.

[SoothingDave]

Instead of addressing the issue of priestless parishes, bishops think it's important to "tinker" with things like bowing and telling them not to talk in church before Mass, as if they were children.

Instillng some sense of reverence for the Sacrament isn't "tinkering," it's the actual job of the bishop.

With dignity restored to the liturgy, perhaps more men will desire to become priests.

The biggest things I've noticed are the EMs no longer fill the cups prior to distribution (done only by priest or deacon), kneeling after the Lamb of God, and no one leaves the sanctuary during the Sign of Peace.

We've always kneeled after the Lamb of God. It was a vague area in the previous GIRM, but it has been the custom here and in the other places in the East I've visited.

SD

[rogator]

Concur with your comment about ordination.

The thing I have noticed about GIRM implementaion is that it seems to be different everywhere, with each diocese emphasing the points their establishment likes best and ignoring the others and even slipping in changes which are not in the GIRM.

As to the noise before Mass, frequently our church is so noisy the the assembly cannot hear the reader when she asks them to "stand and greet each other."

[B Knotts]

Our pastor implemented these changes some time ago, when he first took over from our previous pastor. He just printed up a summary of them, and talked about them a couple times, and everyone just followed the changes pretty well.

The only real problem I've seen with the new GIRM is the part where we stand before responding with "May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands..."

We're still trying to get everyone to remember to wait until everyone stands. Perhaps they ought to change it so that everyone stands prior to that?

[ThomasMore]

Instead of addressing the issue of priestless parishes, bishops think it's important to "tinker" with things like bowing and telling them not to talk in church before Mass, as if they were children.

They SHOULD be dealing with the priestless parish issue. However, they should've been dealing with the reverence issues as well. Too much talking in the Nave which is typically reserved for worship. Church halls are wonderful places for fellowship. Reverence towards the Eucharist is non-existent in some parishes and certainly with many Catholics. A correction of these abuses and other abuses of the GIRM is well in order.

A wise principal for priests and deacons is as follows: Do the RED letters and Read the black letters. No more, no less.

[al_c]

and telling them not to talk in church before Mass, as if they were children.

When they act like children, they need to be treated like children.

[NYer]

The biggest things I've noticed are the EMs no longer fill the cups prior to distribution

Oh no ... is this one more abuse I now have to address with the pastor? Were the rules changed?

In our parish, one of the EMs fills the two cups. However, they drink from the chalice and the priest then hands them the filled cup. Not okay?