[Land of the Irish]

Would that be OK with you, or do you insist, like the SSPX, that the Novus Ordo be suppressed entirely?

I'm not calling for the supression of the Novus Ordo and neither is the SSPX.

That is, I'm not calling for the same magic trick that Paul VI pulled in 1969: Turn out the lights and the "normative" Mass of 1500 years disappears. Turn the lights back on, and, presto Paul VI's Mass is the normative.

His normative Mass has metastasized faster than any cancer known to man, into what you now call "normative". Paul VI's normative Mass did not call for turning the altar around, Mass in the vernaculur, standing for Holy Communion, EEM's, Communion in the hand.

Finally, what's normative about a Mass that has four different Canons.

[sinkspur]

Finally, what's normative about a Mass that has four different Canons.

Two popes say it is. You don't like choice, or options, do you?

[Thorondir]

Excellent. What's normative about a gay mass?