[Patrick Madrid]

Easy there. He could have been clearer in his wording, I agree, but I know Dave (he's a former Evangelical who converted to the Catholic Church some years ago) and I know that he doesn't hold the view that Protestants deny the Incarnation. They clearly do not, as you pointed out. Rather, his comment should have been clarified to say that, assuming the doctrine of the Real Presence is true, as we Catholics believe, then a denial of the Real Presence along the lines he mentions in the article could entail an implicit denial of the Eucharist.

You're right that he could have been more precise, though, to avoid misunderstandings. Thanks for pointing that out. We can modify that to make it clearer and, hoefully, remove any needless and unintended offense.

BTW, I do hope this bump in the road won't deter you from checking out The Hidden Manna. It's nicely done, scholarly and calm, and not polemical. I truly think you'll find it useful.

[drstevej]

***Rather, his comment should have been clarified to say that, assuming the doctrine of the Real Presence is true, as we Catholics believe, then a denial of the Real Presence along the lines he mentions in the article could entail an implicit denial of the EUCHARIST (my emphasis added).***

I have no problem with this statement. But he linked this with the INCARNATION. Gnosticism and docetism were denials of the incarnation. How did this paragraph ever pass editorial review? It is clearly inaccurate. It is not merely unclear.

Does Envoy "vet" these articles for theological / historical accuracy? I have only publuished two articles (Westminster Journal) and both received careful scrutiny and demanded clarity and accuracy. The editors comments to me prior to publication were specific and detailed. No way this kind of statement would have gotten past them.

Is Envoy scholarly or polemic in its intended purpose?

A former professor (Dr. John Walvoord) told us in seminary.

"The difference between a debater and a theologian is: a theologian seeks truth while a debater seeks to win an argument."