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To: Hermann the Cherusker
"A theology that is based on intellectual constructs and not on direct experience of God is philosophy and not theology. It is a human creation that offers neither real knowledge of God nor peace to the heart."
Saint Gregory Palamas

"The really important implication of this attitude concerns the very important notion of Truth, which is conceived, by the Byzantines, not as a concept which can be expressed adequately in words or developed rationally, but as God Himself--personally present and met in the Church in His very personal identity. Not Scripture, not conciliar definition, not theology can express Him fully; each can only point to some aspects of His existence, or exclude wrong interpretations of His beings or acts. No human language, however, is fully adequate to Truth itself, nor can it exhaust it ... This is the authentic message maintained most explicitly by the Byzantine "mystical" tradition of Maximus the Confessor, Symeon the New Theologian, and Gregory Palamas."
John Meyendorff

"Doctrine is not grasped by the mind alone, but a mind and a heart in communion with God. In this union, one is changed not primarily by what one knows, but by Who one knows. Theology was never intended to answer the unbeliever's questions. It was meant to lead the one with an open spirit into a meeting with God."

"The Orthodox understanding of authority through freedom and love takes shape in the concept of reception. A council is not authoritative in and of itself, but only as it is received. A council is the supreme authority in faith, not because it has juridical power, but because it has charismatic authority which has withstood the test of reception over time. Councils do not have automatic infallibility. It is the church which affirms the council. “Truth in the church does not depend upon any infallible institution but is an experience always available in the communion of the Church..."

All of these quotes are from my fr webpage/links found there, on which you can find more reading material. We are not western Christians, we are eastern.

You can learn much during the liturgy that cannot be expressed in words, but it is a type of knowledge that is far more important than the types you are discussing here. Eastern Christianity is experiential.

99 posted on 07/07/2003 8:54:54 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: MarMema
Or as Soloviev put it (I'm probably paraphrasing), "What is Christianity? Come and see at our Church!"

I don't disagree with the sentiment. The Liturgy is the Incarnation, so to speak, of the Faith. Books will give an intellecutal understanding, Worship will give grace and Faith.

The same St. Thomas Aquinas who some Orthodox so castigate for being "too rational" also wrote the sublime, and most Liturgical of Liturgical celebrations in the west outside of Holy Week and Easter, the office of Corpus Christi.

108 posted on 07/07/2003 10:02:43 PM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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