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To: MarMema; malakhi
My response in two parts. The first concerns a possible flashpoint in the Balkans to be reignited by some future, unforeseeable event. I am referring the the apparitions at Medjugorje which have resulted in a whole industry. The enthusiasm, crossing into fanaticism at times, is nothing short of amazing, particularly in light of the fact that the church has never officially approved them. Neither has the church loudly condemned them for reasons known only to the church. Apparitions, even false apparitions, are good for the church.

One of the most negative spinoffs from these apparitions is all the money which has been funnelled into Medjugorje, some which may have been diverted to purchase weapons for the Croatian National movement. At one point, the legitimate bishop was kidnapped and held for several hours until he was released relatively unharmed. Who in America can imagine kidnapping a bishop? The bishop had condemned the apparitions and was having difficulty in getting obedience from the Franciscans in the area.

In conjunction with Medjugorje, at one point there was a symbol of the Croatian movement placed on the altar at St. James church, and there are souvenir shops that sell that sort of memorabilia. It was probably ordered removed, and I don't know if it is still there. Most of what I learned is contained in books and articles written by E. Michael Jones. There does indeed appear to be a resurgence of the spirit which animated the terrible perscutions during WWII, as noted by MarMema.

An article of possible interest, The Ghosts of Surmanci.

In my heart of hearts, I believe the local bishops who have condemned Medjugorje and am totally dismayed that people can so energetically and enthusiastically embrace a lie or hoax. Given what has transpired, it is not too far outside the realm of possibility that such energy could be diverted in a destructive manner against those who attempt to uphold the truth, or perceived enemies in other quarters, although for now they are held in check by various political and church powers.

699 posted on 07/10/2003 1:44:18 PM PDT by Aliska
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To: Aliska; FormerLib; katnip
"during which she was told that she and her money were to play a crucial role in the conversion of Russia.."

Dang, what is it with these people. It's like Russia is some object on a shelf and they want to buy it.(from Aliska's story link above which I am midway through reading.)

Aliska I have been to the Kronzer Foundation site but am finding this earlier history fascinating to read. Thanks.

702 posted on 07/10/2003 2:20:51 PM PDT by MarMema
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To: Aliska
Fascinating insight, thanks.
704 posted on 07/10/2003 2:49:50 PM PDT by malakhi
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To: Aliska
Thanks Aliska for this info. I knew some of your posted link/story from the vatican bank links. I eventually ended up visiting the website of the Kronzer Foundation and reading some of that story there.
713 posted on 07/10/2003 7:47:05 PM PDT by MarMema
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