To: George W. Bush
Oh, please. Get a grip on yourself. And tell your Orthodox buddies to get a grip while you're at it. There are plenty of protestants in "Blue America", and plenty of protestants in political office who support the Culture of Death. Hitlery is one of yours. Likewise Bill and Al. And "Sheets" Byrd. Just for starters. They sure didn't get elected by the CINO vote. Oh, and when pro-abortion 'rats want to
give campaign speeches preach in a church, it's sure not a Catholic one. Protestant's don't have to do the "cafeteria" thing; y'all can just go denomination shopping to find one with lesbian "bishops", or that doesn't mind abortion, or breaks with 1900 years of Tradition to allow artificial contraception. Glass houses, bub. Any "Catholic" (so called) who supports or engages in abortion, contraception, cloning, fetal experimentation, euthanasia, assisted suicide, or buggery is acting in direct contradiction to his alleged Faith, and may very well have automatically (
laetae sententiae) excommunicated himself. The same can NOT be said of Protestants.
And that, my fellow Americans, is the bottom line. The Protestant churches are institutionally compromised. The Catholic Church need only live up to her existing teachings.
To: ArrogantBustard
The Protestant churches are institutionally compromised. The Catholic Church need only live up to her existing teachings.
The liberal mainstream Prots are just social clubs that promote abortion/sodomy while invoking a few kum-ba-yahs and reading a bit of inane poetry. Pathetic. One wonders why they even bother to claim the name of Christ.
Jimmy Carter has been driven into a liberal and rapidly dying wing of the Baptists. His little power play to destroy the orthodoxy of Southern Baptists has failed miserably. Good riddance. Gore and Clinton no longer bother to pretend any real association with Southern Baptists since they've been exposed as religious frauds and Jimmy's fate has left them with nowhere to go and nothing to say on the subject.
For the most part, you're right about Protestants, especially the large liberal denominations.
But AmChurch isn't going to live up to its doctrine because the liberal American hierarchy doesn't want to. And the idea many conservative RCs hold that this liberalism in their churches will run its course and die out in the next twenty years is just a pleasant fantasy. Despite some modest gains by conservative RCs and their bishops, I don't expect they'll carry the day nationally but they might very well preserve a remnant of (relatively) traditional Catholicism and that which I call orthodox traditional doctrine which is shared by RCs, Orthodox, Baptists and many evangelicals and a smaller number of conservative Protestant churches. For instance, we see some smaller denominations of conservative Presbyterians who are a remnant of the once-great Protestant denomination. But the large majority of the Presbyterians are hopelessly lost and are losing the few orthodox Christians they have left. But there is a remnant of faithful in the smaller conservative churches who hold their historic faith. I think the same thing is happening to AmChurch. The few conservative bishops may manage to preserve a sound local hierarchy and teaching, as they do in my own state. But the real future of Roman orthodoxy lies in the Third World. It is much the same with Anglicans and some of the Protestants. Their largest and most effective organizations are not in America. America is becoming a heathen mission field for all practical purposes. That some of those heathens are in control of formerly Christian churches doesn't change anything. Still a mission field of lost souls. We Baptists, at least, readily acknowledge that America is becoming, as European countries already have, an ex-Christian nation.
BTW, I do work with local RC friends on pro-family/pro-life issues politically. Our doctrinal differences do not prevent us from sharing a common political agenda. The Roman churches provide a certain institutional framework that helps to focus the political power of activists and provides communication and political organization. Given the strength of our opponents, we'd be fools to go it alone. And, aside from doctrinal differences, I have no problem with my own RC bishop. He's rather admirable. My RC friends are rightfully proud of his stand for tradition and orthodox Christian belief.
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