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To: TexConfederate1861
and took the prayer of Consecration out of it

What nonsense are you talking about now? I'm sure this has to do with the Epiklesis (which is not necessary for consecration, as St. John Chrysostom can teach you if you ever want to read his Homilies, but that's another subject). Are you going to start in now telling me I didn't hear an Epiklesis all those times I've been to Byzantine or Ukranian Catholic Liturgies? So I'm to believe you, and not my own two eyes and ears? Come on!

370 posted on 07/02/2003 6:41:58 AM PDT by Hermann the Cherusker
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
I'm sure this has to do with the Epiklesis

The Epiklesis is indeed the holiest time of the liturgy.

374 posted on 07/02/2003 7:05:35 AM PDT by MarMema
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To: Hermann the Cherusker
The words "Changing these Gifts by thy Holy Spirit, Amen, Amen, Amen," are the words that are needed for the changing of the gifts. And the West chooses to leave them out.....
387 posted on 07/02/2003 8:14:07 AM PDT by TexConfederate1861 ("believing in the 7 Ecumenical Councils!")
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